[Chapter-delegates] Ideas requested on IP issues paper

Tue Mar 19 08:34:52 PDT 2013

Dear Konstantinos,

I am following this issue along the years and I am happy to collaborate. Our
chapter is planning to do an event directed to lawyers and public in
general. We would like to cover IP and Internet but also other fields of law
like privacy rights, image and procedure and evidence. We reached the point
to make a MOU with the Buenos Aires Bar Association but we should define if
this event will be only for Argentina or regional. On the other hand, this
year ICANN will be held in Argentina and maybe we could prepare an event
before or during ICANN to take advantage of it.

Best Regards,

Hector 

Héctor Ariel Manoff
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De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Konstantinos
Komaitis
Enviado el: martes, 19 de marzo de 2013 6:41
Para: Carlos Vera Quintana
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Ideas requested on IP issues paper

Dear all,

many thanks to those of you who took the time to provide their input - it is
great to see such vibrant discussions and different points of view. 

One thing I feel should be made clear is that, this time, the issues paper
will be high level. Given the multiplicity of rights and their highly
territorial nature, it would be impossible to produce one paper that could
cover all (national/regional) concerns. Moreover, this is a first step
towards a more broader discussion - and, this is why your input is helpful.
Please do continue to share your views and ideas - especially, those
reflecting the way intellectual property rights are exemplified in your
countries and regions.

Again, many thanks for your input.

Best

Konstantinos

Konstantinos Komaitis
Policy Advisor,
Internet Society
komaitis at isoc.org
tel: +41 22 807 1453

On Mar 17, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:

> IP is the most important tool for domination in the digital age.
> 
> We have to work on a real two way protection for users and owners
> 
> Carlos Vera
> 
> El 17/03/2013, a las 15:32, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch"
<apisan at unam.mx> escribió:
> 
>> Konstantinos,
>> 
>> regarding the ISOC request for ideas on an Intellectual Property issues
paper let me add a broad point of view: 
>> 
>> We need to particulary, emphatically look at non-zero-sum games in 
>> intellectual property. The present world of Intellectual Property 
>> management is mostly predicated in a zero-sum fashion: what the 
>> authors gain (in control and money, for example) is someone else's 
>> loss (free access to their works), and some more complex schemes. 
>> Conversely, if someone makes knowledge available, the community's 
>> gain becomes someone's loss (the publisher or the author stop 
>> collecting royalties etc.)
>> 
>> The future needs for us to invent and promote schemes which allow
simultaneously for authors, inventors, music players, film-makers, etc. to
earn a living and society to be able to enrich itself, reciprocally and
collaoboratively, with these works.
>> 
>> Incipient schemes that already exist in this orientation are like
Creative Commons, Open Access, etc. The Internet Society and its members
should be pushing as much as possible to make these schemes legally
accepted, widely diffused and used, and also used as a basis to get even
more knowledge and its impact out to serve society globally. 
>> 
>> Several members of ISOC Mexico are engaged in producing a detailed reply
to your query on ideas for an ISOC paper on Intellectual Property. We expect
to come back with a more nuanced position. I hope the above serves to feed
the fundamentals of ISOC's position.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> 
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>> 
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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>> Facultad de Química UNAM
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>> 
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>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org 
>> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Konstantinos 
>> Komaitis [komaitis at isoc.org] Enviado el: viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 
>> 08:40
>> Hasta: Chapter Delegates
>> Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] Ideas requested on IP issues paper
>> 
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> 
>> As you may be aware, discussions on digital content have been going 
>> on for many years now and the Internet Society has been quite active 
>> in addressing some of the various intellectual property issues, 
>> specifically in relation to legislation like ACTA, SOPA and PIPA. The 
>> public policy team, having heard from many of you on this topic 
>> believes the time is opportune to submit a coordinated view on the 
>> issue of intellectual property via an issues paper.  The good news is 
>> that we have much material to draw upon - found 
>> here:http://www.internetsociety.org/our-work-intellectual-property
>> 
>> The issues paper seeks to put forth minimum propositions relating to the
discussions on intellectual property:
>> 
>> o   Intellectual Property is part of Internet Governance: All discussions
about intellectual property in the Internet should be conducted under a
multistakeholder framework.
>> o   Intellectual Property and Transparency: the need for transparency is
reflected both in the Geneva Principles as well as in the Open Government
Paradigm. The Internet Society believes that this need should further be
reflected in agreements like the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA),
the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) and the Canada-Europe
Comprehensive Agreement (CETA).
>> o   Intellectual Property and the Rule of Law: Intellectual property
should be based on principles such as due process, equality of rights,
fairness, transparency, the right to be heard and legal certainty.
>> o   Intellectual Property and Internet Architecture: The Internet Society
has long recognized that the infringement of intellectual property rights is
a critical issue that needs to be addressed, but, at the same time, it must
be addressed in ways that do not undermine the global architecture of the
Internet or curtail internationally recognized rights.
>> o   Innovation without permission: All intellectual property laws and
policies should bear in mind the Modern Paradigm for Standards Development,
shaped by adherence to the following principles: cooperation; adherence to
principles including due process, consensus, transparency, balance and
openness; collective empowerment; availability; and voluntary adoption.
>> 
>> Based on these observations, the Internet Society would like to propose a
set of standards which we believe should guide all policies on intellectual
property. At its most basic level, the Internet Society believes that all
issues pertaining to the way intellectual property rights are expressed in
the Internet space can be addressed systematically only through an inclusive
and open framework, as we believe that it is currently the only sustainable
governance model for policy issues relating to the Internet and its
platforms.
>> 
>> I would appreciate your comments on the above points. We would also
welcome information on whether and how Intellectual Property policy and/or
law making is being considered or implemented in your country. Please send
your feedback by Monday, 18 March 2013.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Konstantinos
>> 
>> 
>> Konstantinos Komaitis
>> Policy Advisor,
>> Internet Society
>> komaitis at isoc.org
>> tel: +41 22 807 1453
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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