[Chapter-delegates] Day-to-day funding

[Eric Burger]

What does support look like?
Does ISOC Global directly hire 92 part-time staff and distribute them around the world? Is this an efficient use of ISOC resources? Do all chapters need or want support? Do chapters want but do not need support? Are there chapters that need and want support? How do we tell the difference?
Does ISOC Global pour money into all of the chapters? How much? Why? What for? How is it accounted for? Is it legal, both from a donor perspective (a non-profit's funds cannot be used to enrich an individual) and a recipient perspective (many countries bar a non-profit from receiving foreign funds)?
Does ISOC Global use the franchise model, and provide central services that chapters chose to use? This has the benefits of economies of scale and flexibility, but is it OK if it makes only 90% of the chapters happy?
This discussion is timely and important - let us hear your views!

On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:45 AM, sylvain aboka baya <abscoco2001 at yahoo.fr> wrote:

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>   Hi Veni, hi Elver, hi All,
>  +1 veni, you are right, the chapters need the back support of ISOC Global now. Thanks to Elver, to speak aloud what all are just thinking in dear mind... (y)
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> En date du Mardi 12 mars 2013 12h23, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>  a écrit :
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> À : borka at e5.ijs.si 
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> Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Day-to-day funding
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> Borka, 
> it seems that instead of asking what the chapters can do for ISOC, we should ask what ISOC can do for the chapters.
> 
> After all - and that's a fact not known to all people on this list, it were the chapters who provided the overwhelming support for ISOC, when it was bidding to get the management of .org. 
> It were the chapters, who collected letters from governments, academia, and non-profits, to be brought against other bidders. Let me remind you, that some of the other bidders were also far better prepared to run a registry, than ISOC. Back then, ISOC was not the same organization as it is today, and therefore we, the chapters, have done our duty to ISOC. 
> 
> best,
> veni
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> On 03/12/2013 07:18, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:
>> +1 
>> 
>> Well said.  Our law does not  allow for non-for-profit 
>> association as it is  ISOC-SI  corporate members. So, we do not have any 
>> donations or similar income. The work is done 
>> by volunteers, but for how long (we are paying the 
>> accounting clerk as we must provide each year 
>> to the tax office a financial  report)? 
>> 
>> The demands to the chapters from 
>> ISOC staff are rising every day  and it seems that  chapters  are working for an association with quite a big and  paid staff  without knowing  why we must do that and why we must 
>> change the current modest voluntary support we have from our members. 
>> The European chapters had a meeting in Frankfurt on December 17th, 
>> three or four  ISOC staff people attended the meeting but so far no Minutes appeared from the meeting. However, in the same time  ISOC is requesting the chapters to send  Minutes from their meetings and to run extensive  membership administration,  what is the basis for  that request? 
>> 
>> 
>> With regards, 
>> 
>> Borka 
>> ISOC Slovenia. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Edwin A. Opare wrote: 
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>>> 
>>> Elver, 
>>> 
>>> Well said. 
>>> 
>>> Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions on chapter sustainability especially when 
>>> membership dues are not coming through and a chapter does not have any 
>>> corporate members and their relating support on board? 
>>> 
>>> Edwin Opare oc.org
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