[Chapter-delegates] WIFI in Repote Areas

[Carlos M. Martinez]

And, above all, any of this has little or nothing to do with the
balloons (pun not intended ;) ).

The research into low-cost alternatives for delivering broadband
services to sparsely populated and remote areas is, IMO, quite relevant
and something we should applaud.

regards

Carlos


On 6/17/13 2:09 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> Gary, the extent to which Google's efforts to digitize every book is
> in the interest of readers, publishers, authors and.or maybe none of
> them (and just Google's), is an absolutely worthwhile debate. I would
> argue that most of its ebook-related efforts to date, being generally
> DRM-free and open, have been far more preferable to the directions in
> the same realm taken by Apple, Amazon, and most publishers. Google is
> most definitely NOT the company with monopoly power in this field.
> Indeed, most of the areas in which Google is finding conflict are
> those which Amazon and Apple may not consider profitable enough but
> have at least the potential to create public good. While doing so
> certainly serves its interests, Google's ebook efforts have been
> pushing for a public commons well beyond what Apple, Amazon and
> publishers would like.
>
> BTW, the legal fights with Google have come not from libraries -- who
> generally applaud its actions -- but from independent authors'
> collectives who believe they should be paid more for the digitizing of
> their works (even in cases where the author can't be found). It's a
> legitimate grievance, but its debate cannot help but bring into focus
> some of the stupidity of current US copyright policy.
>
> In any case, if this is the debate to have, that's fine. Let's just
> not conflate it with side-issues about airborne access points etc.
>
> - Evan
>
>
>
> On 17 June 2013 16:55, Gary W Kenward <garykenward at eastlink.ca
> <mailto:garykenward at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Some references:
>
>     Harvard librarian Robert Darnton apparently initiated the backlash
>     in 2009 with his New York Review of Books article "Google & the
>     Future of Books
>     <http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/feb/12/google-the-future-of-books/>". 
>
>
>     Pamela Samuelson (Professor of Law at the University of
>     California, Berkeley) also published an article in 2009 on
>     Huffington Post, "Google Books is Not a Library
>     <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-samuelson/google-books-is-not-a-lib_b_317518.html>"
>     (there are a series of articles on Huffington Post concerning the
>     Google Books saga from Prof. Samuelson on the Huffington Post site).
>
>     Darnton wrote a summary of the struggle around Google Books in his
>     2011 article Google's Loss: The Public's Gain
>     <http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/apr/28/googles-loss-publics-gain/>.
>     The turn point for many was the issue of "fair use" being
>     determined by a sole commercial entity, namely Google. 
>
>     Darnton went on to foster the creation of the Digital Public
>     Library of America <http://dp.la/>, launched April 18th of this
>     year. So, for the moment, the American public is ahead.
>
>     I also found one book on the Google Books saga. I haven't read it,
>     but the on-line reviews appear good.
>
>     "The Battle for the Books: Inside Google's Gambit to Create the
>     World's Biggest Library", by Jeff John Roberts. It's vailable on
>     Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Apple. The Amazon price is currently $2.90.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Gary
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>     On 2013.06.16, at 8:13 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com
>     <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>> wrote:
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>>
>>     On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Gary W Kenward
>>     <garykenward at eastlink.ca <mailto:garykenward at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>         The only groups of people who have expressed a concern over
>>         Google's growing acquisition of information, as far as I
>>         know, are the various library associations around the world
>>
>>
>>
>>     Source? I had thought libraries quite keen on the book scanning
>>     project. Any resistance has been from publishers and authors.
>>
>>     j
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