[Chapter-delegates] WIFI in Repote Areas

[Carlos M. Martinez]

Agree - up to a certain point. I do not hear too much about the 'control
of information' applied to, for example, Telcos. Yet they carry most of
what we type and see on the Internet. They are, in the end, the only
ones who can actually match an IP packet to a customer.

Yet Google gets all the bad mouthing. I'm not trying to defend them
(they're big enough to defend themselves ;) ), but I'm curious about why
people feel Google bears more responsibility or Google is more to fear
than other actors.

Also bear in mind that in some regions/countries, Google is not even the
biggest player. Take Baidu in China and the Russian search engines, and
you've got large swaths of the Internet where Google is second (or third).

regards,

~Carlos

On 6/16/13 7:56 PM, Gary W Kenward wrote:
> Using balloons to provide coverage in remote areas is a great idea.
> There are many advantages over fixed infrastructure for
> providing wireless connectivity to under serviced areas. There are
> also many technical challenges to be overcome and certainly Google has
> money to spend on research.
>
> I just find the lack of concern over Google's growing influence - and
> control over information, curious. The only groups of people who have
> expressed a concern over Google's growing acquisition of information,
> as far as I know, are the various library associations around the
> world. It's a legitimate concern, only offset by Google's assurances
> of good will.
>
> I suspect that if the vendor involved was a major international
> telecom, the dialogue would be much different (as exemplified by some
> of  the discussions around WSIS). 
>
> I am not trying to vilify Google, nor am I suggesting that they even
> had much of a choice as to whether to cooperate with the NSA on the
> PRISM program. 
>
> The existence of the PRISM program, the type of data being collected,
> the list of the companies who provided data and the immense storage
> facility are not disputed. The fact that PRISM is acquiring massive
> amounts of meta-data on private communications is not a fabrication
> of apologists, the apathetic, the fearmongers and the conspiracy
> theorist(s). The only issue in dispute, within the US, is how this
> data is being used and what legal protections are in place to mitigate
> abuse of the information. 
>
> The real question is whether any single commercial entity should have
> wide spread control over access, storage or dissemination of
> information. This in particular, includes the pipes that deliver that
> information, for if the meta-data crosses or is stored in a facility
> in a US territory, then the NSA - and other law enforcement agencies,
> have legal access through the Patriot Act.
>
> The real question is whether Canadian's should rely upon the efficacy
> of US legislation to protect access to information acquired from
> Canadian use of the Internet.
>
> Colin Hogan's article "Should Canadians Worry About the NSA's PRISM
> Program? Maybe"
> <http://www.ipolitics.ca/2013/06/10/should-canadians-worry-about-the-nsas-prism-program-maybe/> gives
> better background. Mr. Hogan's credentials as a journalist are
> respectable. The article includes references to concerns expressed
> by Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart over the deficiencies in
> Canada's standards when it comes to protecting personal online privacy.
>
> Gary
>
> On 2013.06.16, at 4:43 PM, Carlos M. Martinez
> <carlosmarcelomartinez at gmail.com
> <mailto:carlosmarcelomartinez at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> What does it have to do with the poor balloons ?
>>
>> On 6/16/13 3:39 PM, Gary W Kenward wrote:
>>> I am surprised that so little is being said about Google's growing
>>> monopoly on information, globally.
>>>
>>> Particularly in light of the recent disclosures concerning project
>>> PRISM, which includes Google providing information to the NSA.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On 2013.06.16, at 11:46 AM, Glenn McKnight
>>> <contact at internetsociety.ca <mailto:contact at internetsociety.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=192277280
>>>>
>>>> Google scientists have been testing a way to link computers to the
>>>> internet in rural, war torn or disaster areas where high speed
>>>> internet does not exist. We hear from Steven Levy, a senior writer
>>>> with Wired magazine who was embedded with the Google team.
>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>> Membership Outeach
>>>> ISOC Canada Chapter
>>>> skype gmcknight
>>>> "The Internet is for Everyone"
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