[Chapter-delegates] [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server copy in Kigali, Rwanda .. ongoing installation

Mon Aug 5 04:42:10 PDT 2013

I Support this point. Hector

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[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Roque
Gagliano
Enviado el: lunes, 05 de agosto de 2013 9:01
Para: GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW
CC: Chapter Delegates; durban-workshop-2013 at elists.isoc.org
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server copy in
Kigali, Rwanda .. ongoing installation

Hi Gabriel,

I believe you have raised a very important issue. I was just discussing this
point in private emails with ISOC staff.

My question to them was: is there a clear directive from the leadership on
when chapters needs to involved in ISOC global initiative? The answer I got
was NO.

Personally, I believe that when the initiative start involving individual
countries, the local chapters needs to be involved. So, if you are inviting
a gov officer to the IETF or you are giving a talk on a country IGF
preparation meeting, the local chapters needs to be involved.

Until there is no guidance from the ISOC leadership, you will depend on the
good will of the staff person involved and on the relationship you build
with them.

Roque

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:42 PM, GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW <md at gambian.com> wrote:

Chris,

How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet related
issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not always involve
those very chapters in the works that it is doing with those governments. 

I fully concur with your astute observation! I have raised the same issue
with the Africa Bureau on every occasion I have met with staff members. For
instance, I learnt about the IXP project in my country a few days before a
workshop was held in conjunction with the ministry of communications, ISOC
Global (Jane Coffin, Dir. Int'l Strategy ISOC Global was in town) and the
AU. 

I have also wondered why ISOC spends a great deal of time proselytizing on
the multistakeholder model, and an open, unencumbered internet when some of
the governments ISOC Global is cooperating with have no intention of
adopting any of these core principles.  The local chapters can have a strong
influence in helping our governments and other stakeholders (ISPs etc...)
adopt best practices (policies, technical,...) and values eschewed by ISOC,
if they are empowered accordingly. This only makes sense for after all, we
are on our home soil and understand better than any outsider the real issues
on the ground.

Hopefully, this will be considered going forward.

Latjor

Gambia 

On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Chris Mulola wrote:

Hi Michuki,

Could you possibly probably give me an update on the I root server
installation progress here in Rwanda, I got this info from Patrick Fältström
( <mailto:paf at frobbit.se> paf at frobbit.se)  and thought that this could be a
good thing for the chapter if you could at least involve us in this project.

This is one of the things that keep governments away from chapters as they
always realize that they can get every support from ISOC Global without
going or having any interaction whatsoever from ISOC chapters, and that is
where they say: what is the use of these chapters anyway?

I understand these might be contracts that ISOC wins on a global scale
however by us chapters learning from an outsider that there is an ISOC
project going on within our country makes us look like the least
unprofessional team ever in our local internet community...sort of the last
ones to be informed.

How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet related
issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not always involve
those very chapters in the works that it is doing with those governments. 

Please let me for any comments, thanks.

 .-- 

Best regards,

Chris Mulola, President
ISOC Rwanda

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until it is faced. (James Baldwin) 

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