[Chapter-delegates] [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server copy in Kigali, Rwanda .. ongoing installation

[Veni Markovski]

Needless to say, but still: +1.
We keep on repeating in the last - how many? - years that the chapters, 
being the natural allies of ISOC.org, are either not being asked to help 
properly, or are not integrated enough in the work and activities of HQ, 
*regardless* (stressing on that!) of the fact that the individuals, 
dealing with the chapters are quote skilled and great people.



On 08/03/2013 15:04, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
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>      +1
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>
> This - coordination between ISOC global-to-local and chapters - 
> continues to be a sore spot and as Latjor says, it reflects negatively 
> on the Society.
>
> And it can't be hidden when it happens.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
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> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de GABRIEL 
> LATJOR NDOW [md at gambian.com]
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 03 de agosto de 2013 13:42
> *Hasta:* Chris Mulola; Chapter Delegates
> *CC:* durban-workshop-2013 at elists.isoc.org
> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server 
> copy in Kigali, Rwanda .. ongoing installation
>
> Chris,
>> How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet 
>> related issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not 
>> always involve those very chapters in the works that it is doing with 
>> those governments.
>
> I fully concur with your astute observation! I have raised the same 
> issue with the Africa Bureau on every occasion I have met with staff 
> members. For instance, I learnt about the IXP project in my country a 
> few days before a workshop was held in conjunction with the ministry 
> of communications, ISOC Global (Jane Coffin, Dir. Int'l Strategy ISOC 
> Global was in town) and the AU.
>
> I have also wondered why ISOC spends a great deal of time 
> proselytizing on the multistakeholder model, and an open, unencumbered 
> internet when some of the governments ISOC Global is cooperating with 
> have no intention of adopting any of these core principles.  The local 
> chapters can have a strong influence in helping our governments and 
> other stakeholders (ISPs etc...) adopt best practices (policies, 
> technical,...) and values eschewed by ISOC, if they are empowered 
> accordingly. This only makes sense for after all, we are on our home 
> soil and understand better than any outsider the real issues on the 
> ground.
>
> Hopefully, this will be considered going forward.
>
> Latjor
> Gambia
>
>
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> On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Chris Mulola wrote:
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>
>> Hi Michuki,
>>
>> Could you possibly probably give me an update on the I root server 
>> installation progress here in Rwanda, I got this info from Patrick 
>> Fältström (paf at frobbit.se <mailto:paf at frobbit.se>)  and thought that 
>> this could be a good thing for the chapter if you could at least 
>> involve us in this project.
>>
>> This is one of the things that keep governments away from chapters as 
>> they always realize that they can get every support from ISOC Global 
>> without going or having any interaction whatsoever from ISOC 
>> chapters, and that is where they say: what is the use of these 
>> chapters anyway?
>>
>> I understand these might be contracts that ISOC wins on a global 
>> scale however by us chapters learning from an outsider that there is 
>> an ISOC project going on within our country makes us look like the 
>> least unprofessional team ever in our local internet community...sort 
>> of the last ones to be informed.
>>
>> How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet 
>> related issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not 
>> always involve those very chapters in the works that it is doing with 
>> those governments.
>>
>> Please let me for any comments, thanks.
>>
>>  .--
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Chris Mulola, President
>> ISOC Rwanda
>>
>>
>> Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be 
>> changed until it is faced. /(James Baldwin)/
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