[Chapter-delegates] my input to the bylaws discussion

[President of ISOC Cambodia]

On 9/17/2012 6:29 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> Agree.
> That's one of the reasons I personally do not interfere recently in 
> the debate on the by-laws (to the extent such a debate exists, of 
> course).
> ISOC-Bulgaria will continue to exist, and whether it is a chapter or 
> not of ISOC - it's not our problem. We have the name and recognition, 
> which we managed to build on our own, and if the new by-laws are not 
> in accordance with what we think they should be, we are not 
> necessarily desperate to continue to be an official chapter. It's not 
> the task of our organizations to try to be chapters; the existence of 
> all chapters is something that benefits ISOC.
> The issues with the letters, affiliations, etc. are so minor, compared 
> to the possibility of changing the fundamental principles of the open 
> and free Internet, that it's not worth even discussing them.
>
> v.
>
> On 09/17/2012 07:20, Joly MacFie wrote:
>> While recognizing these issues are existential and important I'm
>> concerned that, at the forthcoming Chapters & Members meeting at ICANN
>> 45, they may lead to such intense navel-gazing that we will not have
>> time to deal with pressing actions like WCIT, OpenStand, AXIS Project,
>> TPP, IPv6, censorship etc etc, where perhaps our efforts would be
>> better directed.
>>
>> j

I tried to find what "navel-gazing" means: "often used to refer to 
self-absorbed pursuits." OK -- so maybe we should not count any more 
that from "ISOC" there will come encouragement and solidarity while we 
are under squeeze?

Either the issues are really existential and important, then they are 
not navel gazing. Existential? Yes -- we may go out of existence in the 
not too distant future.

ISOC Bulgaria will continue to exist -- good for you that you could 
build up your name and recognition. I know that this was not easy.

But we are under a tightening situation. (If somebody is interested, you 
may read the last report of the "UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights 
in Cambodia" - immediately dismissed by the government as "biased" and 
as "outdated"): 
http://cambodia.ohchr.org/WebDOCs/DocReports/3-SG-RA-Reports/A-HRC-21-63_en.pdf

The suggestionthat we should first of all do fundraising with the ISPs 
would be paralyzing(while some of them block Internet access 
selectively, acting against existing law, while even the Minister of 
Post says in front of the press that there is no legal basis for that).

I fully agree that "WCIT, OpenStand, AXIS Project, TPP, IPv6, censorship 
etc etc" are important and need attention, in general, and also by those 
of our colleagues who will be at ICANN in Toronto. On this level, 
letters, affiliations, bylaws may be so minor compared to what you are 
going to deal with. Good luck. We may no longer exist, as a "not legal 
group" that cannot achieve legalization because of what "ISOC" decides 
to do and not to do.


Norbert Klein
ISOC Cambodia Chapter



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