[Chapter-delegates] Cñean-IT

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Some dotted lines between CleaNIT and WCIT. 

Circuit based thinking.. Internet providers described as control vectors not the user edge
Content is an internet provider responsibility.
Conjecture problem statement stumping evidence methodology
Closed debate amongst self selecting groups of people not truly multi stakeholder.
This presentation for Clean IT at RIPE paradoxically makes the case of how wrong headed this really is

http://www.cleanitproject.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/speech-Clean-IT-projectteam-at-RIPE-NCC-65-on-2709121.pdf

Sigh..... 

Christian de Larrinaga


On 26 Oct 2012, at 06:20, JotHal <jozef.halbersztadt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think too, that WCIT should be a priority. We can wait with CleanIT
> issue till middle of December
> 
> Best
> JH
> 
> 2012/10/26 Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>:
>> Sorry, folks - no participation from me personally; if someone else from
>> ISOC.bg on the list is interested, they would come forward.
>> For me, this is all taking time from the main goal of ISOC.bg this year: a
>> successful WCIT.
>> 
>> best,
>> veni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/25/2012 18:11, JotHal wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> 
>> I am for clear position of European chapters o CleanIT project. It
>> should go away, though the real danger are similar regretful
>> initiatives of national dimension.
>> http://www.opendemocracy.net/ben-hayes/clean-it-secret-eu-surveillance-plan-that-wasn%E2%80%99t
>> 
>> Here is position on CleanIT by EuroISPA
>> http://www.euroispa.org/news/76-reaction-on-cleanit-project
>> 
>> Best
>> JH
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