[Chapter-delegates] Meeting on WCIT at the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology

Tue Oct 2 01:28:30 PDT 2012

Dave raised this on the US ITAC WCIT list and Jackie Ruff of Verizon has
responded as below:

Dear Dave and all,

Something has been confused in the short note on the meeting.  Verizon has
emphatically opposed the ETNO WCIT proposal and continues to do so,
including in interactions with government officials in Germany.

Best regards,

Jackie

Jacquelynn (Jackie) Ruff

Vice President, International Public Policy & Regulatory Affairs

Verizon

(o) +1-202-515-2530

(m) +1-202-236-7193

Also if you look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GuXqlfgmX40#t=3927s
you'll
see Len Cali of AT&T saying they are against regulation, period.

j

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl
<Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Verizon didn't speak-up much. What I heard them say was >>we support
> much of the ETNO proposal (esp. the QoS part) but we don't think
> it should become part of the ITRs<<. Same for Vodaphone.
>
> Klaus
>
> Dave Burstein wrote on 2012-10-01 23:18:
> > Klaus
> >
> > This is very important reporting for the U.S., because our NTIA head,
> > Larry Strickling, said at the Columbia event just about everyone here
> > was backing the U.S. position. Verizon splitting from that is
> > significant because of their massive lobbying power.
> >
> >    All details on what Verizon and Vodafone said would be very helpful.
> >
> > Thanks
> > db
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl
> > <Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de <mailto:Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     Colleagues,
> >
> >     this is a summary of a meeting that took place at the German Federal
> >     Ministry of Economics and Technology (BMWi) last Thursday 9/27
> >     10:00-17:00.
> >     I participated in the meeting on behalf of ISOC.DE <http://ISOC.DE>.
> >     Attendance:
> >
> >     ~30 Participants representing the usual suspects as well as reps
> >     of the environment like consumers, industry, computer manufacturers
> >     (Intel, NEC ...), assistants to MoPs ...
> >
> >     Presentations:
> >
> >     Voss, Head of department for Technology policy (BMWi)
> >     Welcome
> >
> >     Scholl, (ITU Secretariat)
> >     presents ITU. How we work, why often misjudged, consensus based,
> >     members ...
> >
> >     Schöppner, Deputy Head of department for Technology policy (BMWi)
> >     on positions of BMWI on WCIT proposals. 10 selected topics. Positions
> >     either in line with or not covered by ISOC C74. These positions
> >     are according to BMWi in line with CEPT. Main rationals:
> >     Don't change a running system
> >     Don't extend ITR's scope or bindingness
> >     Schöpner's presentation received quite some support during the
> >     discussion.
> >
> >     Doll, (Deutsche Telekom)
> >     presents ETNO C 109. Controversial discussions. I, referring to
> >     European
> >     Chapters Position argued against the QoS part (a threat for net
> >     neutrality) and the SPNP. (BMWi showed a lot of sympathy with the
> >     ETNO paper which obviously was achieved in their previous talks
> >     with Deutsche Telekom) Voss (BMWi) blocked further discussion
> >     of Net Neutrality referring to a separate event on this topic.
> >     Other carriers (Verizon, Vodaphone ...) support ETNO positions.
> >     But they discussed whether they should become part of the ITRs.
> >
> >     Schwarz (Federal Network Agency)
> >     (The Federal Network Agency for Electricity, Gas, Telecommunications,
> >     Post and Railway is a separate higher federal authority within the
> >     scope of business of the German Federal Ministry of Economics and
> >     Technology) brought forward a strong position of his agency against
> >     ETNO C 109, covering most of concerns that are shared by ISOC.
> >     Schwarz emphasized that this position was covered by the head of
> >     the agency. This lead to a certain huff on side of the ministry.
> >
> >     That's it in short. One of the participants asked the ministry to
> >     provide a WIKI to continue discussion and collect references.
> >     Not much support for the idea from the ministry. So ISOC.DE
> >     <http://ISOC.DE>
> >     is considering to pick-up this idea and provide the technical
> >     infrastructure for the discussion.
> >
> >     We also received a friendly coverage from a leading ICT publisher
> >     (Heise):
> >
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Europa-sucht-gemeinsame-Position-zur-internationalen-Telecom-Regulierung-1720367.html
> >
> >
> >     Schöne Grüße, Klaus
> >
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