[Chapter-delegates] [Ecc-council] Next ISOC-ECC General Assembly

Fri May 25 22:56:58 PDT 2012

Hi Marie-Anne, All,

I must say, though I have just returned by the wilderness of northern
Uganda and have been out of the look, that this kind of discussion sounds
quite healthy and refreshing, not to say with a whiff of subversion,
creative disruption, in the air.  I hope to catch up and keep up as I may.

Best to all, Daniel

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Marie-Anne Delahaut <
delahaut.marie-anne at wallonie-isoc.org> wrote:

> I tend to agree with Christopher.
> Christopher is a wise man.****
>
> ** **
>
> The ISOC ECC worked as a creative group until ISOC Reston imposed its
> power on European Chapters. ****
>
> There were many members from many countries, active, working on the
> discussion lists and even meeting regularly, with serious discussions and
> friendly after meetings.****
>
>
> ISOC took the power, imposed its rulers, the European members were shocked
> and stopped talking. Many of them stopped being interested in ISOC.****
>
> The new leaders only wanted to discuss on bylaws and how the Europeans had
> to listen to their orders and rules.****
>
> Never on European content, because their mission is to impose the rules,
> smoothly but the goal is to rule, not to learn.****
>
> ** **
>
> Dear Christopher, congratulation for your job! You did it honestly, we
> know about some who do not and never did.****
>
> Congratulation for your democratic way of thinking, organizing and ruling.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Never mind those who denied the rights of democracy.
> Anyway the wind blows…****
>
> ** **
>
> Marie-Anne****
>
> president, ISOC Belgium-Wallonia****
>
> ** **
>
> nb: I copy all the ISOC lists as it is the new rule now, to receive the
> emails several times. Still I wonder: where are the other groups of
> regional chapters? I never receive any mails about them: is Europe the
> banished ISOC exception?****
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Marie-Anne Delahaut  - delahaut.marie-anne at institut-destree.eu****
>
> Institut Destrée/The Destree Institute - Millennia2015 - Millennia2025****
>
> www.institut-destree.eu - www.millennia2015.org****
>
> [image: Institut-Destree_logo-ico-70]                  [image:
> Millennia2015_Logo-Ico-70]****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *De :* ecc-council-bounces at isoc-ecc.org [mailto:
> ecc-council-bounces at isoc-ecc.org] *De la part de* Veni Markovski
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 25 mai 2012 21:48
> *À :* gajewski at isoc.org
> *Cc :* ECC Council
> *Objet :* Re: [Ecc-council] Next ISOC-ECC General Assembly****
>
> ** **
>
> I tend to agree with Jacek. ****
>
> The ExCom decided that it is not justified to have a GA in Prague,
> regardless of the fact there would have been some chapters there, and
> regardless of the fact there is enough money to cover the travel for at
> least one representative per chapter. ****
>
> ** **
>
> We still have not heard from ExCom on the number of chapters-members of
> the ECC!****
>
> We find this extremely annoying. And worrisome, given the end of the
> mandate of the ExCom on June 21. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I also agree with Jacek that comes June 21, the ExCom should step down and
> cannot perform its duties any longer. Perhaps we need some legal advice on
> how to proceed after that date. Clearly we cannot rely on the ExCom to EVER
> step down, if they decide to not do so, and clearly if they don't want to
> have a GA, we should have some means of organizing one regardless of their
> lack of willingness to follow the by-laws. ****
>
> ** **
>
> We either will have a normal working organization, including new people to
> take over, or shall not plan on anything, if it turns out 3 people couldn't
> talk between each other for weeks to figure out if we can have a GA or not.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I'd like to hear also if the ExCom has discussed this matter with a
> lawyer, as their decision undermines the very existence of the ECC. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Veni****
>
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2012, wrote:****
>
> Dear Christopher,
>
> > 1.    ..... did not justify the cost and organisation of a face-to-face
> General Assembly in Prague during the ICANN meetings.
>
>   ExeCom has conciously not organized GA in 2011 and has cancelled the
> suggested 2012 GAs in Geneva and Prague.
>
> > 5.    Meanwhile, the Executive Committee will continue ....
>
> After its mandate expires in June the current ExeCom may only express its
> will/readiness "to conduct necessary business on a "care and maintenance"
> basis", or its will that f2f GA will be in September, etc. There is no
> clause in Bylaws which guarantees to current ExeCom any right for the the
> management of ECC Council after its mandate will expire.
>
> Your job is over on June 21st, 2012 and it is entirely up to ECC Council
> to decide whom they entrust the management of ECC after this date. In
> particular the ECC Council may choose any other Interim Board or take any
> other decision.
>
> You had a statutory obligation to organize GA, and 3 good chances to do
> it.  You failed in all 3 cases.
>
> With best regards,
> Jacek Gajewski
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ecc-council mailing list
> Ecc-council at isoc-ecc.org
> http://isoc-ecc.org/mailman/listinfo/ecc-council_isoc-ecc.org****
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chapter-delegates mailing list
> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates
>
>

-- 
Daniel Stern
+256 782 115363
+41 79 3426552
uconnect.org
MoMoKla.ug
hivecolab.com
Skype Daniel.Richard.Stern1
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/attachments/20120526/876dd78e/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 5372 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/attachments/20120526/876dd78e/attachment.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 5949 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/attachments/20120526/876dd78e/attachment-0001.jpg>