[Chapter-delegates] Global INET Update

Fri Jan 27 01:49:38 PST 2012

I agree with Veni's arguments,
important point  is speakers,  participation in many cases  depends on 
who are the speakers.
Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM
On 1/26/2012 11:15 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> I don't understand the reaction from ISOC, seriously.
> There are no more than 10-20, let them be 50 chapter members, who 
> might have come to Geneva, if the conference was free. ISOC came back 
> to the list with another, shall I call it, offer? As if we are at an 
> Orient market, and the salesmen is trying to sell what we want to buy, 
> but we all know that arguing about the price is part of the culture.
> Well, I said that I refuse to be awarded as a VVIP (what does the 
> second "v" stands for - "Veni", or second "very"?) with a free pass, 
> if that pass does not go to the chapters' members, or at least 
> chapters' members of the board. I haven't spend 17 years of my life, 
> dedicated to the ideas of ISOC, so that in return I will be a VVIP, or 
> something like that.
> I've respected the organization, I have fought for the organization - 
> both nationally and around the world, and I have tried to change it 
> when I was on the Board of Trustees. That's normal, and I would expect 
> similar from the other Trustees. Many of them were the Internet 
> pioneers in their countries, and they do not need the recognition of 
> ISOC HQ that they are such.
>
> Hope that ISOC can reconsider yet again, and just forget the usual 
> salesmen discussion. We are not at the market, we are not trying to 
> buy our participation at a conference for cheaper. We just believe 
> that since ISOC is widely accepted as a respected organization, 
> because of its members, and because of its chapters, it has to be 
> adequately addressing their needs, not its own. And, on that point, it 
> would be good to know how much the conference costs, and why ISOC 
> doesn't have money to pay for all of it, but asks for participation fee.
> And even more interesting is to see who the speakers will be. If you 
> don't have them by now, I am worried that no good ones could show up 
> at such a short notice.
>
> v.
>
> On 1/26/2012 12:35, President ISOC-KH wrote:
>> On 01/26/2012 08:06 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
>>>
>>> Ted:
>>>
>>> $150 might not seem like a lot of money to some but more than that 
>>> is the message that it's being sent by ISOC . I do not think it 
>>> reflects "/...//the greatest respect for our Chapters and the 
>>> outstanding work you do.../".
>>>
>>> -ed
>>>
>>
>> -ed, just to put this figure into perspective (not that I say the 
>> following is "precise" but it gives some hints) what $150 means as 
>> the fee to participate in Geneva as an ISOC member. - Even if 
>> somebody paid my ticket, this is out for me (my salary, for may year, 
>> had nothing to do with my passport nationality - my choice to work 
>> with Cambodian NGOs). And this mail is not to blame any individual - 
>> it is just a plea that those who are in the upper ten groups in the 
>> list down here should not forget the lower ten groups when making 
>> general statements in the name of ISOC - "The internet is for everyone."
>>
>> Or just hide and change this slogan.
>>
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>> =
>> *
>> Average monthly salary around the world
>> *
>> Fri Jul 16, 2010
>>
>> Ever wonder what's the average salary in other countries? The list 
>> below sort them out in US$...
>>
>> Again the list is in US$, convert to your local currencies to get 
>> localized quote.
>>
>> 2 Switzerland - Geneva / 4246.72
>> 3 Norway - Oslo / 4077.44
>> 4 Ireland - Dublin / 3849.28
>> 5 USA - New York / 3680
>> 6 Luxembourg - Luxembourg / 3610.08
>> 8 UK - London / 3532.8
>> 9 Denmark - Copenhagen / 3521.76
>> 11 Finland - Helsinki / 3278.88
>> 12 Japan - Tokyo / 3216.32
>> 13 Germany - Frankfurt / 3146.4
>>
>>
>> 60 China - Shanghai / 482.08
>> 61 Colombia - Bogota / 478.4
>> 62 Ukraine - Kiev / 426.88
>> 63 Kenya - Nairobi / 408.48
>> 64 Thailand - Bangkok / 401.12
>> 66 Mexico - Mexico / 401.12
>> 67 Bulgaria - Sofia / 375.36
>> 68 India - Mumbai / 320.16
>> 69 Indonesia - Jakarta / 301.76
>> 70 Philippines - Manila / 287.04
>>
>> Cambodia is, of course, not on the list -- too low.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> In April 2011, I started a new blog:
>>
>> ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia
>> http://www.thinking21.org/
>>
>> continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia.
>> This is my latest posting:
>>
>> Council of Ministers Spokesperson Censured UN Special Expert (26.1.2012)
>> http://www.thinking21.org/?p=700
>>
>> Norbert Klein
>> nhklein at gmx.net
>> Phnom Penh / Cambodia
>>
>>
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