[Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!
Ganesh Paudel
ganesh.paudel at ntc.net.np
Tue Jan 17 01:29:40 PST 2012
I support the wiki's oppose to the SOPA and PROTECTIP Act (PIPA).
I've already stated my stance to the Wikimedia Foundation as follows.
"There is no doubt that Information should be open and free to everybody! I
strongly stand against any hooks to prevent the flow of information. As it
is stated SOPA can damage the open sites like Wikipedia and all the
information we've developed so far will be ruined. But, can't we protest
against SOPA without blacking out our information pages? The most REFERED
therefore TRUSTED source of information shouldn't be unavailable even for a
moment. Let's not blackout Wikipedia."
Even I'm in favor of this movement against the SOPA and PIPA but am also
against to Blacking out the whole Information Site. It will prevent the wiki
users to get information.
There should be no obstacles to free flow of information!
Regards
Ganesh Paudel
(Wikimedia Foundation Nepal)
From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Shreedeep
Rayamajhi
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:49 PM
To: Sivasubramanian M
Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!
Dear all
In regards to the wikipedia protest of the open source content I believe and
we all should support the wikipedia movement to black out against SOPA. the
open source content is not a question of right or wrong but the authority
of making it right is a question. The SOPA may be initially search
boundaries but it will be a question to all after its initiation. When we
all say is it a question for us or not i believe it will certainly impact us
hard as US policy affects everyone specially when they are the ruling power
in tech front.
The question of Open source online may be a definition of illegality and
copyrights issue for the developed countries but for underdeveloped and
developing countries it's a question of grasping of what is available and
sharing. To some extent it will also affect the freedom of expression in
resources sharing that will be curbed in coming days. The terms of digital
divide and net neutralization would be a question if you gave it a thought
from this side.
I BELIEVE WE ALL SHOULD SUPPORT TO THE POSSIBILITY
Shreedeep Rayamajhi
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
<apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
Joly,
the statements are indeed pretty clear about the general principles against
ill-advised technical measures and in particular against the DNS provisions
of US SOPA. These as you know have been removed by the initiator of the law
(according to the news.)
I don't see any clear guidance emerging directly from there that we in
chapters outside the US can use for deciding whether we join the proposed
blackout in a few hours.
To begin with: should we AT ALL intervene in a discussion of a law in a
country that is not ours? Why, how, in what terms? If we do so in a way not
coordinated with ISOC HQ are we helping or damaging the ISOC HQ in the US
and their ability to weigh in on the process in a timely way? Are those who
decide to participate out-of-control rogues or brave pioneers?
Dear Alejandro
ISOC's (global) representation on this and other issues are moderate,
balanced and in conformity with the norms of diplomacy.
1. Chapters could participate and respond to these developments in such a
manner that what we decide is in tune with ISOC's beliefs, but as Chapters
largely comprising Individual Users, we have a greater freedom to express, a
little more directly, our views. The involvement of chapters on issues of
this nature could thus be two-fold. 1) being part of the ISOC Global's
position and 2) representing the views of the Chapter members and the local
community members, perhaps after consulting other chapters on the validity
and propriety of the views. The sum total of this 'two'-fold approach is a
complementary whole.
2. This could not possibly be construed as a US National issue. The
implications of US decisions on Internet Policy stretches beyond its
borders, worldwide. SOPA / PIPA seek intervention on sites that are non-US
sites as well, and naturally US would do extended work on the basis of an
ACT like this to cover the rest of the world with the 'wisdom' enshrined in
the Act.
As far as Internet is concerned, the issues are transnational. That is the
primary reason why I am raising APPARENTLY India-specific issues on this
International forum, at the risk of being reminded by the Government of
India that I am "an Indian first".
Thank you.
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044 <tel:%2B52-%281%29-55-5105-6044> ,
+52-(1)-55-5418-3732 <tel:%2B52-%281%29-55-5418-3732>
*Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
*LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
*Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
*Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Desde: joly.nyc at gmail.com [joly.nyc at gmail.com] en nombre de Joly MacFie
[joly at punkcast.com]
Enviado el: martes, 17 de enero de 2012 00:26
Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
CC: President at isoc-au.org.au; ISOC Chapter Delegates; Raul Echeberria
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!
We have seen two statements from ISOC
Dec 13: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2764
Dec 5: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2732
It is true that both address the DNS provisions, but I think phrasing like
the Dec 5 opening para:
The Internet Society has noted with concern a number of U.S. legislative
proposals that would mandate DNS blocking and filtering by ISPs in order to
protect the interests of copyright holders. We agree with proponents of the
Protect-IP Act (PIPA) and Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) that combating
illegal online activities is a very important public policy objective.
However, policies that are enacted to achieve this goal must not undermine
the viability of the Internet as a globally reachable platform. After close
examination and consultation with the Internet community, we do not believe
that the current U.S. legislative proposals are consistent with these basic
principles.
is fairly unambiguous.
joly
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
<apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
Dear Narelle,
this may sound unpleasant to you but... you are a Tustee, we are humble
volunteers disconnected from the general strategy of ISOC.
Many of us are under pressure from Chapter members and others in our local
communities to join the protest and are seen as sitting on our hands upon a
block of dry ice because we are waiting for guidance from HQ.
IF the Board of Trustees is not discussing the matter as urgent - and being
a former Trustee I know this can happen - and IF nobody else at "the top"
has a word about the general strategy of ISOC for these fast-happening
reactions, can we understand that each chapter is free to react, and will
not cause even a frown from the PR apparatus of ISOC?
You may find further guidance in the word of our Chair, Raul Echeberria, in
http://mexico.cnn.com/videos/2012/01/13/el-contenido-de-la-ley-sopa. No
mention of ISOC is made, though, and he appears only as CEO of LACNIC (in
Spanish).
I'm really really sorry if I appear as a nuisance. There's just an urgency
to make decisions - joining the blackout is less than 24 hours away for some
like... you!
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044 <tel:%2B52-%281%29-55-5105-6044> ,
+52-(1)-55-5418-3732 <tel:%2B52-%281%29-55-5418-3732>
*Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
*LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
*Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
*Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
________________________________________
Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Narelle Clark
[President at isoc-au.org.au]
Enviado el: lunes, 16 de enero de 2012 23:56
Hasta: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!
This looks like a strong protest!
Thoughts anyone?
To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community
From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director
Date: January 16, 2012
Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the
English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC
on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia
Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation
in the United States-the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House
of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate-that,
if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including
Wikipedia.
This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public
protest of this nature, and it's a decision that wasn't lightly made.
etc at
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout
More info on SOPA:
Try our Harvard colleague (Jonathan Zittrain and BoT member) who is
actively working on this topic:
http://futureoftheinternet.org/sopa-compromise
and him on Colbert talking about it:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111202/09361816954/colbert-takes-sopa.sht
ml
Cheers
N
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Internet Society of Australia
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