[Chapter-delegates] Weekly European Regional Bureau Newsletter: EU Overview

Grigori Saghyan gregor at arminco.com
Wed Dec 19 12:50:09 PST 2012


Veni,
we have more interesting situation:
In 1988 ITR was signed by USSR. Today Russia is the legal successor of
USSR. So, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Belarus are in between. I do not
have enough knowledge, to see where we are.
Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM

On 20.12.2012 0:12, Veni Markovski wrote:
> 
> Well, we'll see soon. 
> Perhals not many know that each country can join by Jan. 1st, 2015.
>  Some have said they will do so.
> 
>  I just wanted everyone not to get overexcited about the numbers. Plus,
> you can withdraw signature, only if you've placed it. The countries
> which didn't sign the updated ITRs are still subject to the old ones. 
> 
> So, overall, numbers matter, but time matters too. 
> 
> On Monday, December 17, 2012, Holly Raiche wrote:
> 
>     Sorry Veni - but Frederic was correct.  The 55 withdrew their
>     support for the changes - and time will not make any difference.
>     While some of the changes to the ITRs were accepted, there were some
>     fundamental issues, including about coverage of the ITRs, about the
>     charging regime, about rules dealing with content, etc.  The EU
>     position did go beyond the issue of rights, to the others mentioned
>     by Frederic and listed in final statements of the 55 countries.
> 
>     Holly
> 
> 
>     On 17/12/2012, at 9:20 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> 
>>     Good points. 
>>     Happy for edri (Isoc.bg is a founding member) - everyone should
>>     sign for the by-weekly bulletin it producers. 
>>
>>     On the WCIT - the 55 countries did not withdraw their support,
>>     they just need more time to decide, and only a few declared they
>>     will not sign the ITRs. The EU opposition was that the ITRs
>>     introduce rights for member states, and this is the fundamental
>>     problem with the EU laws, where rights belong to people only. 
>>
>>     On Monday, December 17, 2012, Frederic Donck wrote:
>>
>>         Dear All
>>
>>         Please find attached the EU Newsletter for this week (Word
>>         doc/PDF).
>>         !!! Also, please note that this newsletter is now being
>>         published on the European Bureau page here:
>>         https://www.internetsociety.org/europe !!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best,
>>     Veni
>>
>>     == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
>>     touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
>>
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> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Veni
> 
> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
> 
> 
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