[Chapter-delegates] Weekly European Regional Bureau Newsletter: EU Overview
Grigori Saghyan
gregor at arminco.com
Wed Dec 19 12:50:09 PST 2012
Veni,
we have more interesting situation:
In 1988 ITR was signed by USSR. Today Russia is the legal successor of
USSR. So, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Belarus are in between. I do not
have enough knowledge, to see where we are.
Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM
On 20.12.2012 0:12, Veni Markovski wrote:
>
> Well, we'll see soon.
> Perhals not many know that each country can join by Jan. 1st, 2015.
> Some have said they will do so.
>
> I just wanted everyone not to get overexcited about the numbers. Plus,
> you can withdraw signature, only if you've placed it. The countries
> which didn't sign the updated ITRs are still subject to the old ones.
>
> So, overall, numbers matter, but time matters too.
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2012, Holly Raiche wrote:
>
> Sorry Veni - but Frederic was correct. The 55 withdrew their
> support for the changes - and time will not make any difference.
> While some of the changes to the ITRs were accepted, there were some
> fundamental issues, including about coverage of the ITRs, about the
> charging regime, about rules dealing with content, etc. The EU
> position did go beyond the issue of rights, to the others mentioned
> by Frederic and listed in final statements of the 55 countries.
>
> Holly
>
>
> On 17/12/2012, at 9:20 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
>
>> Good points.
>> Happy for edri (Isoc.bg is a founding member) - everyone should
>> sign for the by-weekly bulletin it producers.
>>
>> On the WCIT - the 55 countries did not withdraw their support,
>> they just need more time to decide, and only a few declared they
>> will not sign the ITRs. The EU opposition was that the ITRs
>> introduce rights for member states, and this is the fundamental
>> problem with the EU laws, where rights belong to people only.
>>
>> On Monday, December 17, 2012, Frederic Donck wrote:
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> Please find attached the EU Newsletter for this week (Word
>> doc/PDF).
>> !!! Also, please note that this newsletter is now being
>> published on the European Bureau page here:
>> https://www.internetsociety.org/europe !!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Veni
>>
>> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
>> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
>>
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> Best,
> Veni
>
> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
>
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