[Chapter-delegates] Jabber IDs (JIDs) Re: Global INET Remote Participation

Mon Apr 23 11:00:10 PDT 2012

Thank you Dan,
This explains alot. lets test it tomorrow :)

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Dan York <york at isoc.org> wrote:

> Joly,
>
> How are the unitiated supposed to take an email address like
>
> Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org
>
>
>
> and turn it into chat? What Recommended web client, server, password,
> procedure?
>
>
> Excellent question to remind us all that conventions in the Jabber/XMPP
> world may not be clear to those who do not use Jabber.  Jabber/XMPP
> networks use a "Jabber ID" or "JID" to uniquely identify a Jabber user or
> group chat.  For whatever reason (user familiarity?), the creators of
> jabber chose to use the email address form.  So a JID is:
>
>    <username>@<servername>
>    york at jabber.isoc.org
>    dyork at jabber.org
>
> In order to user Jabber, you do need to have an account with some Jabber
> server.  Note that GMail provides an XMPP interface and so if you have
> GMail you can use a Jabber client and login to your gmail account.   You
> can also register a free account at http://www.jabber.org/  or one of the
> services listed on  http://xmpp.net/ (not sure if all there provide free
> accounts, but many do).
>
> There are MANY Jabber clients out there (
> http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/ ). Many folks on Macs tend to
> either use the built-in iChat (or the new "Messages") or Adium (
> http://adium.im/ ).   On Windows I know friends of mine use Pidgin -
> http://www.pidgin.im/   There are also many web-based clients for those
> who just want a simple browser solution.
>
> Group chats / chat rooms on Jabber use the same email-like format:
>
>   <chatname>@<servername>
>   globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org
>
> As Peter Godwin noted below, different Jabber clients accept JIDs in
> different ways.  Some allow you to simply enter the JID as an email address
> while others require you to take apart the JID and enter the components
> into different fields.
>
> By the way, thanks for enabling the Livestream chat.  As a remote attendee
> I was watching the Global INET sessions today and found the Livestream chat
> to be quite useful as it was nicely integrated in with the display window.
>
> Regards,
> Dan
>
> P.S. And yes the similarity of JIDs to email addresses can be confusing at
> times.  Over the years I've had a couple of cases where people told me they
> couldn't get email to me... and it turned out that they were emailing the
> JID for one of my accounts.
>
> --
> Dan York
> Senior Content Strategist, Internet Society
> york at isoc.org   +1-802-735-1624
> Jabber: york at jabber.isoc.org
> Skype: danyork   http://twitter.com/danyork
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>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Peter Godwin wrote:
>
> Examples of how to connect to a Jabber room using various clients:
>
> Using iChat:
>
>  File > Go to chat room > Room name: globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org
>  Go
>
> Using Adium:
>
>  File > Join group chat > Chat room name: globalinet3
>  Server: conference.isoc.org
>  Join
>
> Using Exodus:
>
>  Exodus > Join a chat > Room server: conference.isoc.org, Room Name:
> globalinet3
>  Finish
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
> Yes but.
>
>
> How are the unitiated supposed to take an email address like
>
> Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org
>
>
>
> and turn it into chat? What Recommended web client, server, password,
> procedure?
>
>
> It's a good thing I turned on livestream chat or there wouldn't have been
> any accessible chat.
>
>
> j
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <
> cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:
>
> jabber (open a jabber room on a jabber server and people with jabber
> clients can join) is very useful. As is that old favourite IRC!
>
>
>
> Christian
>
>
> On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:43, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:
>
>
> +1 to the multiple language audio streams.
>
> On Apr 23, 2012 10:32 AM, "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>
>
> To begin with in the webcast I had just enabled facebook check in and
> twitter of #globalINET - neither were satisfactory, facebook would check
> you out if you didn't say anything, and twitter got flooded by porn spam
> using the tag (which, incidentally, twitter proper seemed to be able to
> filter out.)
>
>
> As we went to the roundtable, I decided to enable livestream native chat
> and it was immediately popular and used by the remote moderators.
>
>
> As we went to the concurrent events I again enabled livestream chat.  The
> two options provided by ISOC were a facebook event page, which was little
> used and jabber, for which I am fielding questions, particularly from
> Bernard SADAKA at the ISOC Lebanon remote hub, on how to use. I've never
> personally used jabber, but trying http://jwchat.org/  it appears one has
> to login  - perhaps someone could advise us on how one takes an address
> like Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org and turns it into chat?
>
>
> Lastly, there have been requests in the chatrooms for streams of the
> translations. I am wondering if there's any chance, at least in the main
> room of setting up an alternative audio stream of the translation feeds> We
> do have spare livestream channels, and if anyone there who could plug a
> translation channel into a pc, I could easily set them up to stream.
>
>
> j
>
>
>
>
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