[Chapter-delegates] Jabber IDs (JIDs) Re: Global INET Remote Participation

Mon Apr 23 10:07:29 PDT 2012

Joly,

> How are the unitiated supposed to take an email address like 
>> Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org 
>> 
>> 
> and turn it into chat? What Recommended web client, server, password, procedure?

Excellent question to remind us all that conventions in the Jabber/XMPP world may not be clear to those who do not use Jabber.  Jabber/XMPP networks use a "Jabber ID" or "JID" to uniquely identify a Jabber user or group chat.  For whatever reason (user familiarity?), the creators of jabber chose to use the email address form.  So a JID is:

   <username>@<servername>
   york at jabber.isoc.org
   dyork at jabber.org

In order to user Jabber, you do need to have an account with some Jabber server.  Note that GMail provides an XMPP interface and so if you have GMail you can use a Jabber client and login to your gmail account.   You can also register a free account at http://www.jabber.org/  or one of the services listed on  http://xmpp.net/ (not sure if all there provide free accounts, but many do).    

There are MANY Jabber clients out there ( http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/ ). Many folks on Macs tend to either use the built-in iChat (or the new "Messages") or Adium ( http://adium.im/ ).   On Windows I know friends of mine use Pidgin - http://www.pidgin.im/   There are also many web-based clients for those who just want a simple browser solution.

Group chats / chat rooms on Jabber use the same email-like format:

  <chatname>@<servername>
  globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org

As Peter Godwin noted below, different Jabber clients accept JIDs in different ways.  Some allow you to simply enter the JID as an email address while others require you to take apart the JID and enter the components into different fields.

By the way, thanks for enabling the Livestream chat.  As a remote attendee I was watching the Global INET sessions today and found the Livestream chat to be quite useful as it was nicely integrated in with the display window.

Regards,
Dan

P.S. And yes the similarity of JIDs to email addresses can be confusing at times.  Over the years I've had a couple of cases where people told me they couldn't get email to me... and it turned out that they were emailing the JID for one of my accounts.

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Dan York
Senior Content Strategist, Internet Society
york at isoc.org   +1-802-735-1624 
Jabber: york at jabber.isoc.org 
Skype: danyork   http://twitter.com/danyork

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On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Peter Godwin wrote:

> Examples of how to connect to a Jabber room using various clients:
> 
> Using iChat:
> 
>  File > Go to chat room > Room name: globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org
>  Go
> 
> Using Adium:
> 
>  File > Join group chat > Chat room name: globalinet3 
>  Server: conference.isoc.org
>  Join
> 
> Using Exodus:
> 
>  Exodus > Join a chat > Room server: conference.isoc.org, Room Name: globalinet3
>  Finish
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> 
>> Yes but.
>> 
>> How are the unitiated supposed to take an email address like 
>>> Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org 
>>> 
>>> 
>> and turn it into chat? What Recommended web client, server, password, procedure?
>> 
>> It's a good thing I turned on livestream chat or there wouldn't have been any accessible chat.
>> 
>> j
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:
>> jabber (open a jabber room on a jabber server and people with jabber clients can join) is very useful. As is that old favourite IRC!
>> 
>> 
>> Christian
>> 
>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:43, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 to the multiple language audio streams.
>>> On Apr 23, 2012 10:32 AM, "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> To begin with in the webcast I had just enabled facebook check in and twitter of #globalINET - neither were satisfactory, facebook would check you out if you didn't say anything, and twitter got flooded by porn spam using the tag (which, incidentally, twitter proper seemed to be able to filter out.)
>>> 
>>> As we went to the roundtable, I decided to enable livestream native chat and it was immediately popular and used by the remote moderators. 
>>> 
>>> As we went to the concurrent events I again enabled livestream chat.  The two options provided by ISOC were a facebook event page, which was little used and jabber, for which I am fielding questions, particularly from Bernard SADAKA at the ISOC Lebanon remote hub, on how to use. I've never personally used jabber, but trying http://jwchat.org/  it appears one has to login  - perhaps someone could advise us on how one takes an address like Globalinet3 at conference.isoc.org and turns it into chat?
>>> 
>>> Lastly, there have been requests in the chatrooms for streams of the translations. I am wondering if there's any chance, at least in the main room of setting up an alternative audio stream of the translation feeds> We do have spare livestream channels, and if anyone there who could plug a translation channel into a pc, I could easily set them up to stream.
>>> 
>>> j
>>> 
>>> 
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