[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society / Wikipedia Page update

Fri Apr 6 03:05:32 PDT 2012

If I have had my computer, I would have edited it by now. Just anyone on
this list can do it, so just go and edit it.

On Friday, April 6, 2012, Eduard Tric wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics_Department
> Statistics Scoreboard
> Metric  Current Value
> Users   16,559,118
> Admins  1,484
> User/Admin Ratio        11158.44 users per admin
> Edits   526,334,981
> Pages   26,750,093
> Edits per Article       19.68 edits per page
> + too many males editors + other discouraging things.
> I see it like another utopic attempt to share  unvalidated , unreliable ,
> contested knowledge .
>
> Updating Isoc page is a minor thing, the real question is : Does Isoc
> caution Wikipedia way of disseminating information ? Updating the page
> would men that you agree with Wikipedia framework.
> I don't know about the situation in US, Poland or other countries, but
> teachers here in Romania are very skeptical about "i checked on wikipedia ,
> so it must be true, richt, teacher ? " attitude.
> Comments on this ???
> Regards,
> Ed
>
> ----- Mesaj original -----
> De la: "Veni Markovski" <veni at veni.com <javascript:;>>
> Către: "Klaus Birkenbihl" <Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de <javascript:;>>
> cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <javascript:;>
> Trimis: vineri, 6 aprilie, 2012 12:27:13
> Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Society / Wikipedia Page update
>
>
> +1. With a :( sign.
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2012, Klaus Birkenbihl wrote:
>
>
> It was a rather simple question by Olivier that started the
> discussion.
>
> > does anybody from ISOC staff check & updates Wikipedia pages?
>
> And to be fair I thought it was just a ping for our
> communications staff to carefully apply some corrections.
> This is what Khaled would expect, this is what members
> would expect, this is what the world would expect. Like
> it or not - as long as Wikipedia is the first point
> of information on any subject for many it deserves some
> attention. That Wikipedia is not free of errors and
> conflicts is no reason for us to ignore it.
>
> But obviously it _only_ started another big chapters
> discussion thread instead. As it was before with "INET2012
> planning" and our "new Website quality" that has not
> improved since 5 months now. Would it be fair to assume
> that ISOC has a problem managing its communications
> (with members and the world)?
>
> Klaus
>
> President ISOC-KH wrote on 2012-04-06 04:56:
> > There are at present different opinions ? apply Wiki general editing
> > rules or not? I think it is most important to consider some fundamentals:
> >
> > The Wiki has information related to ISOC as a whole (including the
> > list saying which Chapters exist, supposedly not updated at present),
> > and it has access to specific information on Chapters.
> >
> > I consider it to be surprising that a publicly accessible Wiki on ISOC
> > exists and there is no immediate clarification from staff saying who
> > (at ISOC Global) is responsible to make sure that this information is
> > correct. I would appreciate to receive, on this list, such
> > clarification to be given soonest - as the Wiki is pubic - stating who
> > is responsible for what, related to this Wiki.
> >
> > As long as there is no clarity who is responsible to make sure that
> > the list of Chapters is correct, it is also not enough to say that the
> > Chapters are responsible to edit their related content.
> >
> > Is a Wiki ? with wide open editing rights - really appropriate to
> > carry important information about ISCO Global and ISOC Chapters?
> >
> > But maybe a different kind of Wiki is important, as a public forum on
> > ISOC affairs - with links to authoritative institutional information?
> >
> > The new ISOC website has more information than I can research quickly
> > to find out if there is also an address like ?ISOC in a nutshell?
> > (easily accessible from the main page) which would give some really
> > brief and basic information about ISOC Global, and a list where all
> > Chapter website links can be accessed by one mouse click.
> >
> > Norbert
> > ISOC Cambodia Chapter
> >
> > =
> >
> > On 4/6/2012 6:50 AM, Khaled KOUBAA wrote:
> >> I probably have different view than some of you.
> >> It is true that Wikipedia is based on the open process to users to
> >> edit content about any subject they want to and there is volunteers
> >> around the world that are taking of some corrections or updating
> >> But some famous personalities or organization take care about their
> >> wikipedia page by dedicated PR/Comm staff that will ensure that
> >> information on the page are correct because they know that wikipedia
> >> come along the first search result in the online search.
> >> So I think it is probably important for the comm ISOC staff to take
> >> care of it
> >>
> >> Khaled
> >>
> >> Le 03/04/2012 02:53, Veni Markovski a écrit :
> >>> Actually it would be perfectly fine if you edit it. No need to
> >>> refer it to Isoc staff to edit it, which also would be inappropriate.
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2012, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey there,
> >>>
> >>> does anybody from ISOC staff check & updates Wikipedia pages?
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Society is in need of a
> >>> refresh.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Olivier
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> >>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> >
>
> --
> Klaus Birkenbihl
> Internet Society German Chapter e.V. ( ISOC.DE )
> c/o ict-Media GmbH
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-- 
Best,
Veni

== Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
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