[Chapter-delegates] About Internet Everywhere (was On visual identity of FB pages)

[Thomas Lowenhaupt]

I raised this issue at a luncheon at INET DC a couple of years ago. 
Someone suggested that for corporate products, liability insurance rates 
might be the appropriate "educator." But in the U.S., nuclear plants are 
outside the realm of such insurance. (I'm not certain of this, but 
recall the Federal government providing some overall protection as the 
insurance companies said - too hot for us.)

Google's work on automated auto controls is another area where a 
ubiquitous protocol causes concern. And similarly in aviation: Did I 
read about an airline that inadvertently tied its on-board entertainment 
system into the control system?

Perhaps an area on the new ISOC website: Explorations Into Inappropriate 
Uses for TCP/IP

Tom


On 11/25/2011 10:00 AM, David Solomonoff wrote:
> I've wanted ISOC-NY to address this in terms of net-connected medical 
> equipment for some time. I spoke to the Software Freedom Law Center 
> who have been doing work on this as well as the head of the Occupation 
> Therapy student group here at the State University of New York 
> Downstate Medical Center. I need to follow up on this and make a date.
>
> The solution in many cases is better security - although some military 
> and law enforcement systems are completely isolated - this was 
> discussed at INET Philly as you may recall.
>
> On 11/25/11 12:58 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:
>> Joly,
>>
>> Let me begin by saying that I missed the start of the discussion to 
>> which to responded below. But it seems close enough to an issue I've 
>> had on my mind for some time and I thought I'd comment, possibly 
>> forcing an inappropriate connection. But here goes...
>>
>> I'm not sure I'm 100% with "The Internet is for everyone". It reminds 
>> me of Internet everywhere. And it/they sound a bit like the positions 
>> organizations like AAA (American Automobile Association) and NRA 
>> take, in essence, cars and guns everywhere.
>>
>> To my mind, there are better and worse uses of cars and guns and the 
>> Internet. And I think the ISOC should weight in here. For example, I 
>> think there is certain infrastructure I'd like to be offline, e.g., 
>> nuclear bombs and plants.
>>
>> Is there a limit to the Net? Does / should ISOC take a position here?
>>
>> Tom Lowenhaupt
>>
>> On 11/23/2011 2:57 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Peter Koch <pk at isoc.de 
>>> <mailto:pk at isoc.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I'm flabbergasted by Internet Society
>>>     people jumping the bandwaggon into a walled garden.
>>>
>>> "The Internet is for everyone" means even walled gardens.
>>>
>>> j
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