[Chapter-delegates] Sad news from ISOC Poland

[Klaus Birkenbihl]

OK guys, call me a paranoid if you like. Here is my take on it.

Tommy said that there are quite some core values that are threatened by
FB. I definitely agree. I even think FB harms the Internet because their
business model threatens:

 privacy: Data protection commissioners in EU but also in the rest of
   the world find every week a new reason to admonish or sue FB

 networking: it is more or less the vision of FB to make the Internet
   a star shaped network. What ever data you have: give it to *us*
   whoever you want to reach, reach her with *us*, what ever you do
   let *us* know, whoever you know, let us know too. If you like
   something tell *us*, your artwork, give it to *us*, your creativity,
   your skills use them with *us*! (did I hear anybody say 1984?)
   You cannot escape anyhow! Since, if you don't feed *us* with all
   this stuff - your friends will truly do it for you.
   Everything will be with *us*. Everything will be provided by *us*.
   Every communication runs through *us*. Nothing goes without
   *us*. No other service within the web is as grabby as *us*!

Btw as soon as FB has finally succeeded we don't need an Internet anymore.
Because everybody is connected to FB and every communication can run
through it. FB Apps will replace Web browsers (maybe having Web access as
a an option).

This is only partly an educational issue. It is more a policy issue
as there is a need to

 - stop monopolization of the Internet
 - enforce privacy laws
 - take means to foster pluralism
 - maintain true networking and keep it neutral

Admitted we saw monopolies in IT before. Telecom operators, IBM,
Microsoft, Google(?), ... So maybe FB is just an episode. Nevertheless
some care might be appropriate and a good message can help to
make it an episode.

There might be rationals and advantages that give people a reason to
carefully use FB. But as far as ISOC is concerned: using facebook
to promote ISOC's business will spoil the credibility of the message.

Or don't we have the presumed message that we are against the way FB
(ab)uses the Internet? IMHO it would be good we had. Despite - or
rather because - FB was accepted as an executive ISOC member.

Paranoid regards,
Klaus




Patrick Vande Walle wrote on 2011-11-18 11:12:
> On 18/11/11 07:57, Tommi Karttaavi wrote:
>> On 18.11.2011 1:36, Fred Baker wrote:
>>> I like the FB page. I "liked" it, too. Queuestion. What's the "sad"
>>> news?
>>
>> I suspect Marcin might be referring to what I said at the European
>> Chapters Workshop last week about why ISOC Finland doesn't have a FB
>> page. There may or may not have been foam coming out of my mouth :)
>>
> 
> Tommi,
> 
> For the benefit of those who were not at the Bucharest meeting, would
> you be willing to share what you said about why ISOC Finland doesn't
> have a FB page ? 
> 
> FWIW, ISOC Luxembourg does have a FB page at  http://facebook.isoc.lu
> (redirects to https://www.facebook.com/Internet.Society.Luxembourg )   
> You are welcome to "Like" it :-)
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
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Klaus Birkenbihl
Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE)
http://www.isoc.de/