[Chapter-delegates] Sad news from ISOC Poland

[Lucy Lynch]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Tommi Karttaavi wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I don't know how 'beneficial' this is, but at the meeting I said something to 
> the effect that ISOC Finland's board made a decision not to be on Facebook 
> because
>
> a) some of our members a very privacy conscious and don't want to be on 
> Facebook

+1!

They track you when you log-in, they track you after you log-out, and they
track you if you just touch the facebook site (not a member...)
This is a pretty good summary of some of the current issues.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2011-11-15/facebook-privacy-tracking-data/51225112/1

> b) Facebook's business model seems to be in direct contradiction with ISOC's 
> core values (you know, openness of the Internet etc)

They are not the only large company pursuing this kind of closed 
development strategy but they are one of the most successful. The tensions 
between a need for rapid deployment and the time required to develop 
agreed standards is a factor here. So is the competition for data subjects 
(end-users).

> We are using Twitter, however, and quite recently opened a YouTube Channel 
> (with only one video for the moment), so it's not that we are opposed to 
> social media per se. We just didn't feel that Facebook was right for us. At 
> the meeting last week I also suggested that we should look into things like 
> Diaspora for more open, standards compliant and distributed platforms.
>
> But I don't want to make too big a deal out of this, and as for the ISOC-LU 
> FB page, I'm already liking it :)
>
> Best,
>
> Tommi
>
> On 18.11.2011 12:12, Patrick Vande Walle wrote:
>> On 18/11/11 07:57, Tommi Karttaavi wrote:
>>> On 18.11.2011 1:36, Fred Baker wrote:
>>>> I like the FB page. I "liked" it, too. Queuestion. What's the "sad"
>>>> news?
>>> 
>>> I suspect Marcin might be referring to what I said at the European
>>> Chapters Workshop last week about why ISOC Finland doesn't have a FB
>>> page. There may or may not have been foam coming out of my mouth :)
>>> 
>> 
>> Tommi,
>> 
>> For the benefit of those who were not at the Bucharest meeting, would
>> you be willing to share what you said about why ISOC Finland doesn't
>> have a FB page ?
>> 
>> FWIW, ISOC Luxembourg does have a FB page at  http://facebook.isoc.lu
>> (redirects to https://www.facebook.com/Internet.Society.Luxembourg )
>> You are welcome to "Like" it :-)
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> 
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