[Chapter-delegates] Call for action : Securing internetsociety sites ( Re: Fwd: Our New Site Has Launched )

[Borka Jerman Blazic]

Hi,

I am writing in view of Ed last posting.

ISOC Slovenia is registered as "Društvo" - meaning Society (non for 
profit association )  from beginning (1996).
The full name is a Society for computer communications - ISOC-SI. The 
domain name
is also reflecting the nature of the association "www.isoc-drustvo.si".

So, we will not change anything as the current name is a translation of 
Internet Society.

Regards,

Borka


Dne 20.12.2011 3:44, piše Eduard Tric:
> Klaus's point of view make sense, too. They tried to raise in a diplomatic way  a very annoying issue.
>
> To resume a bit:
> "Isoc" brand seems to become suddenly  unattractive due to several reasons.
> We can debate a posteriori about the relevance of those reasons , but now it's a fact : we do have internetsociety as a brand and global site.
>
> Where do we go (as chapters) from here ?
> I will not speak about the issues already raised (broken links , URI , standards), but try to come with a practical one:
>      - Almost every chapter made an investment in their website as isoc.** . In order to make a succesful transition, some measures wee needed before the transition.
>      A minimum would have been to secure the new URL's.
>      Now it's to late for some countries. Legitimate users or Squatters are already there.
>      For example , Germany is taken.  France is Taken, too. Most of internetsociety.** CCTLD's are still free , thus squattable big time.
>      I would be VERY angry if someone will take internetsociety.ro ( .ro is free, anyone can register ).
>            
> Last but not least , an incentive like country.internetsociety.org given to each and every national chapter would be nice to have.
> The practical question is : Who is in charge of securing the internetsociety.** sites ?? HQ ? Chapters? Nobody? What about the planning ?
> In some countries we need to show the trademark so it will take time.
> For countries where is free to register a cctld , i would start now.
> In fact , i will stop writing and start registering internetsociety.ro , but what about the other countries ???
> How do we solve France and Germany situation ?
> It would be messy to have isoc.** in some countries and internetsociety.** in others. New users would not understand.
>
> Regards,
> Ed
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joly MacFie"<joly at punkcast.com>
> To: "Klaus Birkenbihl"<Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>
> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:47:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Our New Site Has Launched
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> I will say, in Lia's defense, that this policy - the longer url - was to my knowledge instituted well before she got here. The thinking no doubt being, that branding is important, and unity of branding reinforces that. You try setting up a google alert on ISOC and I can tell you that you get a lot of Islamic Societies and very very few Internet ones. There are many more unfamiliar people than familiar and, I suspect, it is those that the change is aimed at. Using "pretty" explanatory permalinks to aid comprehension and recollection is established practice. Previously, and I would imagine this will continue, one has the choice to abbreviate if one wishes. Does not take any effort and there's no need to change links elsewhere.
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> j
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> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Klaus Birkenbihl<  Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>  wrote:
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> On the other hand I bet you discussed the domain/URI issue
> internally and IMHO obviously took a wrong decision.
> Frankly, I wonder if its so easy to fix and I wonder if you read the
> article of Tim Berners-Lee on cool URIs that should not change. You
> applied kind of a surgery to the Web by cutting out an important
> part ( www.isoc.org ) and replacing it by another one
> ( www.internetsociety.org ). Now all other parts of the Web that
> were connected to ( www.isoc.org ) have find their way to the
> new adress. Takes time, effort that's not yours, some will get
> lost, but over time it will be surely mended.
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