[Chapter-delegates] Draft Affiliation Agreement Last call for feedback

Sat Oct 23 07:57:33 PDT 2010

Hello,

I have posted additional comments at page

http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Draft%20Chapter%20Affiliation%20Agreement%20version%202

Thank You

Sivasubramanian M
ISOC India Chennai

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Christopher Wilkinson <
cw at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

> Pour Memoire, CW
>
>
>
> *From: *Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> *Date: *Mon 6 Sep 2010 19:08:55 GMT+02:00
> *To: *Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Subject: **Comments on draft Affiliation Agreement - CW*
>
> Dear Anne Lord and colleagues:
>
> I wish to come back to the draft Affiliation Agreement which you have
> recently re-published.
> Admittedly, I have not followed this discussion closely in recent months,
> not least because I had thought that the outstanding questions had been
> adequately set out by ISOC Chennai last July.
> However, it would appear that the same issues persist, so please allow me
> to make some additional comments.
>
> Let me say, up front, that all Internet Society members want the Chapters
> to be effective, expanding and accountable, and that many of the performance
> standards and other criteria mentioned in the draft text are of great
> interest. The question is how best to achieve this:
>
> 1. Having re-read the ISOC Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws, I find
> that  - surprisingly -  the category of membership of Internet Society
> Chapters is not yet recognised. I would suggest that before we go any
> further with this exercise, and particularly in the light of the Board of
> Trustees' decisions to enhance the role of the Chapters within the Internet
> Society, that we should begin with an appropriate amendment to the Bylaws
> providing for and recognising Chapter membership of ISOC.
>
> 2. The draft text presupposes an artificial dichotomy between ISOC and
> individual Chapters. If the Chapters are an integral part of ISOC, then one
> cannot reasonably ask them to enter into a formal agreement with
> themselves. Recall that for most of our individual members, their Chapter IS
> the Internet Society. Also, it is not clear who would represent ISOC in such
> an agreement.
>
> 3. Most Chapters are incorporated under national Not-For-Profit, or
> equivalent legislation. Before starting a process of negotiation aimed at
> obtaining a number of such Affiliation Agreements, world-wide, I would
> suggest that ISOC acquire information as to the scope for our Chapters to
> enter into international private agreements of this kind. Also, we should
> bear in mind that each Chapter's elected leadership is primarily subject to
> the internal control and assent of its membership. Accordingly it may not be
> wise to try and impose, externally and contractually, such performance
> standards and criteria, whatever their objective merits.
>
> Consequently I would recommend that the Spheres Labels group investigate
> the alternative of transforming this draft Affiliation Agreement into a
> bilateral exchange of letters between the President of the Chapter concerned
> and the Chair of the Board of Trustees.
>
> 4. The draft agreement's excursion into Intellectual Property ("ISOC IP")
> is bound to raise some questions. No doubt the Internet Society would wish
> to restrain eventual abuse of our Logo (although I am not aware of any such
> case). However, the "goodwill" associated with the Internet Society largely
> pertains to our Chapters in their respective geographical areas. It is not
> appropriate to suggest that such "IP" automatically accrues to ISOC.
>
> 5. Implementation: The negotiation, monitoring and sanctioning of such
> agreements world-wide could occupy significant staff resources over a period
> of years. I am not sure that this is a priority for ISOC. I would of course
> defer to the Board of Trustees in this particular matter.
>
> In any event, I would request that the deadline for additional comments be
> extended from 16 September to 4 October, or thereafter, following the INET
> and Chapters meetings in London.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christopher Wilkinson.
>
>
> -----------------------
> On 03 Sep 2010, at 07:12, Anne Lord wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I have previously posted to this list (see below) information and an
> invitation to contribute to the ongoing work in the Sphere Labels group. The
> group is helping to define a minimum set of expectations about what it means
> to be an Internet Society Chapter, which are captured in a draft Affiliation
> Agreement. This is one piece of the work to revise the Chapter Policies and
> Procedures.
>
> The draft Agreement has had review and feedback from members of the Sphere
> Labels discussion list, the Chapter Taskforce, the Lawyers and the ISOC
> Executive team.  All the project information (version 2 of the draft , a
> summary of feedback,  responses from the Taskforce and Lawyers and the next
> steps are available at
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project
>
> We would be very happy if you would like to comment on the revised draft
> Affiliation Agreement. To do so, please join the conversation on the sphere
> labels  mailing list. To join the list, simply send email to <
> chapter-support at isoc.org> or visit
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels. The deadline for
> comments is 16th September.
>
> Sincere thanks to everyone who has contributed to this work so far.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Anne (on behalf of the Chapter Taskforce).
> --
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org>
>
> Date: 8 June 2010 2:15:48 PM
>
> To: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>
> Subject: Invitation to join Sphere Labels group (draft Affiliation
> Agreement discussion).
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
> Many of you may be aware that work is underway in the Sphere Labels group
> to review and revise the current Chapter Policies and Procedures at:
> http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/.
>
> There have been a series of conversations about what it means to be a
> successful Chapter, all of which are archived at:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Titles+Labels+Images&bl=y
> .
>
>
> The goal of the work in the Sphere labels group is to develop a framework
> in the form of an Affiliation Agreement that shapes a partnership between
> ISOC Global and the ISOC Chapters which ensures a truly symbiotic exchange
> of value between both parties and makes a meaningful contribution to the
> overarching mission of the organization as a whole.
>
>
> If you are interested to join this discussion you are invited to join the
> Sphere Labels group.  You can subscribe to the mailing list by going to:
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels or simply email
> <chapter-support @ isoc.org>.
>
>
> Recent Activity:
>
>
> The group is currently discussing a draft "Affiliation Agreement" which is
> the output of a face to face meeting of the Chapter taskforce that met on
> April 27 and 28.  Comments are invited on the document at:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=5 from until June
> 30th.  If you would like to participate in this discussion, we would invite
> you to join Sphere Labels.
>
>
> best wishes
>
> Anne
>
> (on behalf of the Sphere Labels group)
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
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> On 27 Sep 2010, at 21:15, Anne Lord wrote:
>
> [Apologies for cross-postings]
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The purpose of the Affiliation Agreement is to provide a clear framework
> for the exchange of value between ISOC HQ and the ISOC Chapters, where none
> exists today. It defines a set of minimum standards to be considered an
> 'active' Chapter, and describes the support and resources available from
> ISOC HQ to help achieve that minimum. The emphasis is on helping each other
> to succeed in collectively advancing the ISOC mission.
>
> TRANSLATIONS
> The French and Spanish translations of the 2nd version of the draft
> Affiliation Agreement are now available (along with the English version) on
> the ISOC Chapter wiki at:
>
> * French:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=French+version&bl=y
> * Spanish:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Spanish+version&bl=y
> * English:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Draft+Chapter+Affiliation+Agreement+version+2&bl=y
>
> They are also linked directly from the Sphere Project pages:
> http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project, where
> you can find Version 1 of the draft Agreement and the summary of feedback
> from all stakeholders together with the Chapter Taskforce response.
>
> HELP NEEDED
> In the interests of getting these translations to you as quickly as
> possible, they have not been verified by native speakers.  We would really
> appreciate your help.  In addition to your feedback, if you spot any errors
> in the translations, please let us know by emailing <
> chapter-support at isoc.org> with details.
>
> TIMELINE
> The deadline for feedback has, by request, been extended to 29th October
> 2010.  All feedback will be considered and collated for the Chapter
> Taskforce to consider.  This process began a year ago in October 2009 (see:
> https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2009-October/005467.html).
> This is now a 'last call' for feedback prior to the request for endorsement
> by the ISOC Board of Trustees meeting mid November.
>
> Thanks very much in advance for your feedback on version 2.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anne
> On behalf of the Sphere Labels Chapter Taskforce.
> --
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