[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bogota, Colombia
Patrick Vande Walle
patrick at vande-walle.eu
Fri Dec 10 05:41:49 PST 2010
While I wish to pay tribute to the work of the staff, I point out it is not the first time such a thing happens.
There are historical reasons why ISOC has in the past accepted applications from chapters with overlapping geographical coverage. Chapters now increasingly address regulation issues at the national level. It would bring more weight to their positions if they do not appear divided.
The BOT needs to take action. Not only on this case, but also on others that will come up in these future.
For the above-mentioned efficiency reason, I personally oppose the creation of this new chapter. I am not questioning the qualification of the individuals involved. I just believe appearing divided is not a benefit for ISOC as a whole.
"Alejandro Pisanty" <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>as a witness and participant, let me express recognition for the
>thorough,
>careful work Sebastian Bellagamba and the Chapters team in ISOC HQ have
>
>put into the ISOC Bogta and ISOC Colombia analysis and the creation of
>a
>path that is likely to let move things forward consistently with ISOC
>values and goals.
>
>Yours,
>
>Alejandro Pisanty
>
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>On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Sebastian Bellagamba wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 23:47:40 -0200
>> From: Sebastian Bellagamba <bellagamba at isoc.org>
>> To: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in
>Bogota,
>> Colombia
>>
>> Dear delegates,
>>
>> Regarding this application, I am pleased to announce that both groups
>of ISOC members (the ones behind ISOC Colombia and ISOC Bogota) shared
>a meeting today, and they started a hopefully constructive dialogue
>that will be bring good news to our Colombian colleagues.
>>
>> Best regards!
>>
>> Sebastian Bellagamba
>> bellagamba at isoc.org
>> -------------------------------
>> Manager - Oficina Regional para America Latina y el Caribe
>> Regional Bureau Manager for Latin America and the Caribbean
>> ==================
>> Internet Society
>> www.isoc.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/12/2010, at 8:27 PM:, Carlos Vera wrote:
>>
>>> Estimado Carlos, sin embargo todos o el unico criterio a favor de un
>nuevo capitulo que expones es precisamente geografico basado en
>distancias y extensiones, ciudades y paises.. ESto en caso de ameritar
>se resuelve con secciones no con mas capitulos...
>>>
>>> A nosotros nos parece razonable el analisis de la demanda real de la
>region, potencialidades de trabajo, recursos para operacion,
>voluntarios con que se cuente, proyectos propuestos, presupuestos, etc,
>que muestren una DIFERENCIACION REAL con el capitulo existente..y
>sostenibilidad para el futuro, pues la experiencia nos demuestra que la
>colaboracion propositiva es de lejos mejor que la competencia
>discursiva.
>>>
>>> Carlos Vera
>>>
>>> 2010/12/9 Carlos M. Martinez <carlosmarcelomartinez at gmail.com>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Perhaps I am too new to ISOC, but I don't think we can reject an
>application based solely on territorial overlap.
>>>
>>> While I agree that perhaps if both communities (the current chapter
>and the proposed one) collaborated instead of forming a new chapter
>they could perhaps achieve better results in the long run, but in the
>end I don't believe that ISOC can force them to do so.
>>>
>>> Besides, Colombia is big country and Bogota is a large city.
>Traveling within the country can involve plane trips or long road ones.
>There can be reasons for creating city-wide chapters besides
>country-wide ones.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Carlos Martinez
>>> ISOC Uruguay
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/9/10 7:51 PM, Carlos Vera wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No estoy de acuerdo con soportar esta aplicacion
>>>>
>>>> En ISOC Ecuador, creemos firmemente que deben realizarse esfuerzos
>importantes para sustentar el trabajo de los capitulos existentes y que
>solicitudes de este tipo, cuando ISOC Colombia esta empezando a dar sus
>frutos, solo desalentara a sus actores y dispersara esfuerzos.
>>>>
>>>> ISOC debe mantener una politica firme de soporte al trabajo de los
>capitulos que bastante esfuerzo y trabajo exige crearlos y mantenerlos.
>Cuando se intenten crear nuevos capitulos donde ya existen otros, estos
>deben empezar al menos sobre la base de trayectoria del capitulo
>existente, sus ejecutorias y tiempo trabajado. Adicionalmente no se
>debe considerar solamente la solicitud de un nuevo capitulo sino la
>necesidad del "mercado" para el mismo y si existen fallas en el trabajo
>del capitulo existente para que la creacion de un nuevo capitulo en
>circunscripciones territoriales con limitaciones economicas y de
>ejecutorias, resulte en beneficio de la comunidad y no en detrimento de
>aquella.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>> ISOC Ecuador
>>>>
>>>> 2010/12/2 Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> The following application for a Chapter in Bogota, Colombia, has
>been received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and
>review. Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not
>officially
>>>> been recognised by ISOC.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, we have met some of the applicants in the past year at various
>meetings and have encouraged the members to join the existing Colombian
>Chapter on several occasions. However, they have decided to form a
>Chapter in Bogota, and their ideas are outlined in the application
>below.
>>>>
>>>> If there are people on this list that know the individuals
>proposing to
>>>> establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
>>>>
>>>> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is
>December 15, 2010.
>>>>
>>>> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sabrina Wilmot
>>>> ISOC
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>>
>>>> *Chapter Application*
>>>>
>>>> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
>>>> Capítulo Bogotá-Colombia de ISOC / Bogotá-Colombia Chapter Of
>ISOC.
>>>>
>>>> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve
>>>> The community of Interest of this Chapter will be initially the
>residents of Bogota. Eventually we hope to scale our reach to other
>cities and towns in Colombia.
>>>>
>>>> C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter
>>>> The Bogota-Colombia Chapter of ISOC will be an open organization
>where every individual or institution will be welcome to participate
>and contribute. It will make a special emphasis in a frequently and
>effective communication to coordinate the local efforts with the
>regional and global ISOC organization, and its many chapters, by
>becoming a global reference on how to engage the different actors
>(Government, enterprise, education and civil society), in order to
>leverage best practices for the development of local, regional and
>national public policy becoming an expert in Internet related topics.
>>>>
>>>> The Chapter aims to become a channel for execution of programs of
>Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) of Colombian based companies,
>developing activities focused at increasing the “digital inclusion” in
>our target population. With this support and with support from many
>sources, the Chapter will perform activities in the areas of education
>and the promotion of alternative methods of access to internet.
>>>>
>>>> One difference of the chapter is to help forging productive links
>between the electronic game industry and projects involving the use of
>games in education, training, health, and public policy. This
>will help in exploring the competences development by empowering the
>people in the problem solving of the challenges facing the world,
>identified in the Millennium Development (MDG) goals.
>>>>
>>>> D. Founding Members of the Chapter
>>>> Name Surname (Profession, Office Company, Email on file)
>>>> Francisco Alcides Ruano Males
>>>> Mauricio Álvarez Aragón
>>>> Lorenzo Alberto Antamaría Espinosa
>>>> Abelardo Arciniegas
>>>> Diana Carolina Arias
>>>> Ariel Barbosa
>>>> Martha Patricia Barrera Alfonso
>>>> Carlos Andrés Barrero Flórez
>>>> Yesid Alejandro Barreto Jiménez
>>>> Jorge Fernando Bejarano Lobo
>>>> Crispín Swedi Bilombele
>>>> Philippe Boland
>>>> Pierre-Alain Branger
>>>> Germán Bustos
>>>> Mario Hamid Cajiao Mejía
>>>> Wilman Alonso Camargo Asesor
>>>> Julián Casasbuenas G.
>>>> Andrés R. Castelblanco Mendoza
>>>> José Manuel Castelblanco Arenas
>>>> Juan Carlos Castellanos
>>>> Mauricio Rafael Castro Abarca
>>>> Carlos Arturo Cely Niño
>>>> Sandra L. Céspedes Umaña
>>>> Francisco José Córdoba
>>>> Jhon Alexander Cuartas Flórez
>>>> José Camilo Daccach T.
>>>> Andrés Gustavo Díaz
>>>> Jairo Alberto Galindo Cuesta
>>>> Francisco Javier Galindo Vázquez
>>>> Fabián Orlando García
>>>> María Andrea Giraldo
>>>> Felipe Alexander González Castillo
>>>> JOSE SAMUEL GONZALEZ CONTRERAS
>>>> José Samuel González Contreras
>>>> José Adelmo González R.
>>>> Carlos Gutiérrez Cuevas
>>>> Yair José Guzmán Brieva
>>>> Alejandro Hernández
>>>> José Luis Hernández Bautista
>>>> Carolina Herrera De Castellanos
>>>> Luis Alberto Lesmes Sáenz
>>>> Carlos Linares Valentín
>>>> Maricela Londoño
>>>> Edwin Orlando López
>>>> Jefferson Camilo López Barrero
>>>> Alfredo López Hernández Educación
>>>> Bell Manrique Mejía
>>>> Iván Darío Marrugo Jiménez
>>>> Daniel Mejía Maldonado
>>>> Carlos A. Merchán
>>>> Carolina Morales Prado
>>>> Ana María Moreno Ballesteros
>>>> Alberto Moreno Quiñones
>>>> Freddy Alberto Mosquera
>>>> Liliana Andrea Murillo Pardo
>>>> Yeisson Navarrete Martínez
>>>> Carlos Neira
>>>> Fabio Cesar Olaya Fernández
>>>> Jairo Ortiz
>>>> Luis Farley Ortiz Forero
>>>> Diane Yissel Osorio Herrera
>>>> Andrés Guillermo Otálora
>>>> Arilog Regina Pavón Ángel
>>>> Julio Páez
>>>> Carlos Huber Pinilla Buitrago
>>>> Yesid Polania
>>>> Eugenia Ramírez Isaza
>>>> Cindy Restrepo
>>>> Erick Rincón Cárdenas
>>>> Freddy Javier Robayo Vargas
>>>> Gilberto Rodríguez
>>>> Gabriel Rodríguez Escandón
>>>> Francisco Javier Roldán
>>>> Andrés E. Roldan Martínez
>>>> Luz Nelly Romero Agúdelo
>>>> Gonzalo Alfredo Romero Borda
>>>> Nelson Alberto Ruan Ceballos
>>>> Mónica Rubiano
>>>> Luis Guillermo Rubiano Orjuela
>>>> Tatiana Salamanca Abogada
>>>> Félix Eduardo Salcedo
>>>> Cesar Augusto Salinas Bermúdez
>>>> Carlos Sanabria Periodismo
>>>> Eduardo Santoyo
>>>> Gabriel Mauricio Sarmiento
>>>> Idier Socha Prieto
>>>> Carlos Eugenio Thompson Pinzón
>>>> María Lucía Urrego
>>>> Iván Vargas Chaves
>>>> Ana Erlinda Veloza Cerón
>>>> Omar Villota Hurtado
>>>> Alicia Inés Zanfrillo
>>>> Ramiro Zarate Angulo
>>>>
>>>> E. List of Supporters
>>>> Organization Name Role (Contact mail on file)
>>>> 1. Colnodo - Julián Casasbuenas, Director
>>>> 2. .co internet sas - Eduardo Santoyo, VP, Asuntos Corporativos e
>Institucionales,
>>>> 3. enREDo - Ana María Moreno Ballesteros, President
>>>>
>>>> F. List of Requirements
>>>> None requirements.
>>>>
>>>> G. Additional Information
>>>> Our communication strategy has been successful, and with the
>creation of a site: http://colombia.isoc.pro/ as part of an effort of
>transparence in all the processes, so each member and person interested
>can consult the history of the creation of the chapter.
>>>>
>>>> H. Your Contact Information
>>>> Philippe Boland
>>>> enREDo
>>>> Bogotá Colombia
>>>> (details on file)
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> RE: Application of Colombian Chapter of the Internet Society - ISOC
>- COLOMBIA
>>>>
>>>> We are writing in behalf of all the people interested in creating
>the Bogotá-Colombia chapter and be one of the official chapters of
>ISOC.
>>>>
>>>> In the ISOC Business plan 2010-2012, the next 24 months will be
>crucial for the future of this great organization, and the “lift the
>game” strategy to reduce semi active chapters will rejuvenate the
>presence of ISOC in the world, for that reason we want to be an
>official chapter because we are focused in be the most active chapter
>in Latin America and further in the world.
>>>>
>>>> We know the importance of ISOC in the world, and for that reason,
>we have been preparing the creation of the chapter for many months in
>order to have the entire crucial axis in place. We have made 6
>preparations meetings by one of our supporting organizations (enREDo-
>Red Internacional de Diseño through its Club Networking TIC), gathering
>more than 75 people and designing strategies to maintain the connected
>with ISOC Bogota-Colombia.
>>>>
>>>> Our communication strategy has been successful, and with the
>creation of a site: http://colombia.isoc.pro/ as part of an effort of
>transparence in all the processes, so each member and person interested
>can consult the history of the creation of the chapter.
>>>>
>>>> Another strategy has been the mailing list (now with 3.000 people)
>receiving the updates of this great process.
>>>>
>>>> Many of our members, such as Patricia Cespedes (an IEFT scholar and
>member of ISOC for many years) are supporting the chapter creation from
>their actual location (in this case Canada).
>>>>
>>>> We look forward to receive a positive and fast answer of this great
>effort we are engaged.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully submitted,
>>>> Maricela Londoño C.
>>>>
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Cordialement,
Patrick Vande Walle
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