[Chapter-delegates] Possible collaboration on events

[Desiree Miloshevic]

On 12 Apr 2010, at 20:49, David Solomonoff wrote:

> I'd like to concur with both Chris and Zaid. It's important for ISOC  
> to use terminology that people recognize if we want to successfully  
> reach out beyond our current active membership.
>
> We can propose new policy alternatives but if we don't seem to be  
> talking about issues that people are familiar with it will be hard  
> to build support for them.
>
> An event such as the one I originally suggested could have both "Net  
> Neutrality" and "Open Inter-networking" in the title.

Agree

Desiree
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> David
>
> Lynn St.Amour wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> very well said and positioned.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 19:08, Zaid Ali <zaid at sfbayisoc.org> wrote:
>>>> I assume you mean open inter-networking :) I have read the paper  
>>>> on this and
>>>> I don't disagree with this on principle but my concern is how we  
>>>> communicate
>>>> and educate the public. At our local chapter level people are  
>>>> still using
>>>> the term net neutrality so are media, bloggers et al. How do we  
>>>> educate them
>>>> about open inter-networking when everyone is knee deep still  
>>>> relating to net
>>>> neutrality. My opinion is that this whole process is costly at  
>>>> both the
>>>> national and US chapter level.
>>>>
>>>> It seems the public and ISOC in this case are addressing the same  
>>>> issue but
>>>> in an opinion tug of war, open inter-networking is a valid  
>>>> argument but we
>>>> don't have enough strength on our side of the rope and I question  
>>>> is we ever
>>>> will. I have talked to many lawyers in the last few days since  
>>>> this ruling
>>>> and they all use the term net neutrality, ask any senator and  
>>>> they will use
>>>> the term net neutrality.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the best way to frame this is that ISOC's stance on "Net
>>> Neutrality" is described by the phrase "Open Internetworking."
>>>
>>> My goal as a chapter leader is not to convince everyone to stop  
>>> saying
>>> "net neutrality" but rather to explain to them the concept of open
>>> internetworking and advance the preservation of the open Internet.
>>> This way we can avoid being "for" or "against" net neutrality  
>>> (because
>>> net neutrality is understood as different things by different  
>>> people)
>>> and instead support the worthy ideal of open internetworking.
>>>
>>> ~Chris
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as Comcast Vs FCC the battle is far from over, using the  
>>>> term
>>>> "Network Management" in this case will result in nothing but  
>>>> court battles
>>>> over what the term "Network Management" means and how this court  
>>>> decision
>>>> cannot be used to block application X or Y because some ISP is  
>>>> hampering
>>>> either Internet development or the next Youtube.
>>>>
>>>> Zaid
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