[Chapter-delegates] Possible collaboration on events
David Solomonoff
drsolomonoff at gmail.com
Mon Apr 12 12:49:51 PDT 2010
I'd like to concur with both Chris and Zaid. It's important for ISOC to
use terminology that people recognize if we want to successfully reach
out beyond our current active membership.
We can propose new policy alternatives but if we don't seem to be
talking about issues that people are familiar with it will be hard to
build support for them.
An event such as the one I originally suggested could have both "Net
Neutrality" and "Open Inter-networking" in the title.
David
Lynn St.Amour wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> very well said and positioned.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lynn
>
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 19:08, Zaid Ali <zaid at sfbayisoc.org> wrote:
>>> I assume you mean open inter-networking :) I have read the paper on
>>> this and
>>> I don't disagree with this on principle but my concern is how we
>>> communicate
>>> and educate the public. At our local chapter level people are still
>>> using
>>> the term net neutrality so are media, bloggers et al. How do we
>>> educate them
>>> about open inter-networking when everyone is knee deep still
>>> relating to net
>>> neutrality. My opinion is that this whole process is costly at both the
>>> national and US chapter level.
>>>
>>> It seems the public and ISOC in this case are addressing the same
>>> issue but
>>> in an opinion tug of war, open inter-networking is a valid argument
>>> but we
>>> don't have enough strength on our side of the rope and I question is
>>> we ever
>>> will. I have talked to many lawyers in the last few days since this
>>> ruling
>>> and they all use the term net neutrality, ask any senator and they
>>> will use
>>> the term net neutrality.
>>
>> Perhaps the best way to frame this is that ISOC's stance on "Net
>> Neutrality" is described by the phrase "Open Internetworking."
>>
>> My goal as a chapter leader is not to convince everyone to stop saying
>> "net neutrality" but rather to explain to them the concept of open
>> internetworking and advance the preservation of the open Internet.
>> This way we can avoid being "for" or "against" net neutrality (because
>> net neutrality is understood as different things by different people)
>> and instead support the worthy ideal of open internetworking.
>>
>> ~Chris
>>
>>>
>>> As far as Comcast Vs FCC the battle is far from over, using the term
>>> "Network Management" in this case will result in nothing but court
>>> battles
>>> over what the term "Network Management" means and how this court
>>> decision
>>> cannot be used to block application X or Y because some ISP is
>>> hampering
>>> either Internet development or the next Youtube.
>>>
>>> Zaid
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>>
>>
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