[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India
Ram Mohan
rmohan at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 29 07:27:09 PDT 2009
Anne,
Thanks for this. The one thing that I do feel kinship with Siva is that
he (as Chapter lead) did not get early notice on the Bangalore situation
- as you say below, that was an oversight, but it would probably cause
me heartburn if I was in the same situation.
In any case, let's try to move forward - we learn from these; I'm
personally excited to see more chapters getting formed in India.
-Ram
Anne Lord wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Thanks Ram, and everyone who has provided feedback on this
> application. I have read all the emails and have a few clarifications
> to make based on current procedures and practice as well as offering
> some thoughts, first about the general case and then about this
> particular application. Apologies for the length of this email.
>
> 1) Policies
>
> The current policy at http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/ states
> the following about the "scope" of Chapters in point 3:
>
> "Chapters may be established on a non-exclusive basis to serve the
> needs of any specific, cohesive community of interest. Multiple
> Chapters serving overlapping communities are not permitted."
>
> Chapters are established on a non-exclusive basis, and providing there
> is a not an overlapping scope, Chapters can (and do) exist in the same
> area. For example, there are 6 Chapters in Spain (a Madrid Chapter, a
> Spain Chapter, a Galicia Chapter, an Aragonese Chapter, a Catalonia
> Chapter and an Asturias Chapter).
>
> It is probably useful to look at the purpose of Chapters. The policy
> is sufficiently flexible to allow different formats of Chapters to
> exist and co-exist (from which ISOC derives much of its strength):
>
> "Chapters of the Internet Society are expected to serve the
> interests of a segment of the global Internet community in a manner
> consistent with the mission and principles of the Internet Society
> <http://www.isoc.org/isoc/mission/principles/>. Through a presence
> local to its community of interest, a Chapter focuses on issues and
> developments important to its community. A Chapter recognizes,
> honours, and uses the culture, customs, and language of its community.
> Every Chapter shall have an explicit statement of purpose.
>
> Clearly this needs to be interpreted with some sensitivity and no two
> cases are alike but providing that needs are being met and the work
> and mission of the Internet Society is being advanced in a meaningful
> way, city based, regional and national Chapters can happily co-exist.
>
> Finally, a member can become a member of any other Chapter as they
> choose. No one Chapter has a "right" to a member. An individual
> chooses the one that matches their interests most closely.
>
> 2) Procedures
>
> When we receive a Chapter application where there is already a Chapter
> operating we attempt to direct the applicant to the existing Chapter
> as a first response.
>
> 3) This application
>
> For the reasons that Ram outlines, and based on other feedback in the
> region, we feel that the proposed Chapter and the existing Chapter
> have a sufficiently large population (5 million and 7 million
> respectively), cultural identity and linguistic considerations to
> warrant separate Chapters. However in this case, there was probably
> some oversight on our part in notifying the Chennai Chapter earlier in
> the process for which we apologise. We will also take steps to ensure
> that the scope is sufficiently different and will work with both
> groups to reach an agreement.
>
> As a side note..I have indicated in earlier messages that an important
> piece of work is to revise the Policy framework for Chapters. Some
> excellent preliminary work has already been done in the Sphere Labels
> group, and this work will soon be developed further with the help of
> Peggy Hoffman to help us build a revised policy framework for the
> "Chapter of the Future". If you are interested in joining this
> discussion and helping out, please send email to
> <chapter-support at isoc.org <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org>> to be
> added to the sphere-labels mailing list. We will also be reaching out
> soon to reach individuals that help reflect the diversity of the
> Chapters that make up the Internet Society.
>
> As always, feedback and suggestions are very welcome on, or off list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Anne
> --
>
>
> On 29/09/2009, at 8:54 AM, Ram Mohan wrote:
>
>> I support this application. Chennai (pop. 7 million) and Bangalore
>> (pop. 5 million) are two large metros, and would potentially draw
>> from completely different sets of members. A person from Bangalore
>> would _not_ reasonably identify themselves as belonging to the
>> "Chennai" region. The main language spoken in Chennai (Tamil) is
>> different from that spoken in Bangalore (Kannada). A little known
>> fact might be that in pre-independent India (pre 1947), these were
>> separate kingdoms.
>>
>> ISOC would be well advised to take into consideration the cultural,
>> linguistic and political tinderbox by calling Bangalore a part of the
>> Chennai region.
>>
>> In North American terms, it would be the equivalent of trying to say
>> that Washington DC & New York should merge chapters because they are
>> in the Northeast region of the USA. Sébastien's proposal of one ISOC
>> chapter per country reads to me (in Indian terms) roughly as: "We
>> should only have ISOC-EU because all states in the EU are part of the
>> EU."
>>
>> Siva's case would be bolstered if ISOC Chennai changed its charter
>> and focused on being a regional organization. But in its current
>> avatar, it is recognized as ISOC _Chennai_ and as a result will be
>> constrained more by its geographic selection of the metropolitan
>> region of Chennai.
>>
>> -Ram
>>
>> Sabrina Wilmot wrote:
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> The following application for a Chapter in Bangalore, India, has
>>> been received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and
>>> review.
>>>
>>> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not
>>> officially been recognised by ISOC.
>>>
>>> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing
>>> to establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
>>>
>>> ~~~~ For the Chapter delegates attending the INET conference in
>>> Delhi today, you can meet Mr. Manish Chauhan here. I know some of
>>> you did already. ~~~~
>>>
>>> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 2
>>> October 2009.
>>>
>>> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sabrina Wilmot
>>> ISOC
>>>
>>> PS: Please note that private contact information has been removed
>>> from the application below but is on file with ISOC.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>> Chapter Application for ‘Bangalore Chapter of the Internet Society’
>>>
>>> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
>>> The chapter will be known as "Bangalore Chapter of Internet Society".
>>>
>>> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
>>> This Chapter will serve persons who live or work in the geographic
>>> area which includes (but is not limited to) Bangalore, Hyderabad,
>>> Pune, Mumbai, Goa and nearby areas on a non-exclusive basis.
>>>
>>> C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter
>>> Mission: "To assure the beneficial, open evolution of the global
>>> Internet and its related internetworking technologies through
>>> leadership in standards, issues, and education.".
>>>
>>> Objectives-
>>> 1) To provide the leadership, vision, and advocacy efforts necessary
>>> to educate the public and engender a healthy and receptive
>>> environment to Digital Convergence in the Bangalore Area.
>>> 2) To provide broad-based representation of the Indian Internet
>>> community both nationally and internationally.
>>> 3) To provide a service for the benefit of the community generally
>>> by enabling individuals, groups, and organisations to use the
>>> Internet effectively for communication, collaboration, education,
>>> and innovation without any discrimination on the basis of race,
>>> color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, social
>>> origin, property, birth or other status and to provide information,
>>> assistance, archives, and other relevant resources for Indian
>>> Internet users.
>>> 4) To give expression to the viewpoint of Indian Internet users to
>>> business, industry, the government, the media, and society in
>>> general, by providing information and promoting education.
>>> 5) To affiliate with other Indian Internet-focused organisations for
>>> co-ordination, collaboration and education in order to further the
>>> objectives of the Society.
>>> 6) To promote, facilitate, and conduct research relating to the
>>> Internet and internetworking.
>>> 7) To develop and maintain formal and informal relationships with
>>> the international Internet community.
>>>
>>> D. Founding Members of the Chapter
>>> The Bangalore Chapter of the Internet Society is being initiated by
>>> the following 3 founding members:
>>> 1> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan
>>> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC.
>>> Currently: Member of Technical Staff, Oracle India Development Center
>>> (Bangalore)
>>> 2> (Ms.) Swati Pandey
>>> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
>>> 3> (Mr.) Abhinav Asthana
>>> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
>>>
>>> E. List of Supporters
>>> Below is a list of 28 Global Members of ISOC (with their contact
>>> information and other details) who belong to Bangalore or nearby
>>> areas and who are in support of setting up the "Bangalore Chapter of
>>> the Internet Society ". Each member in this list has been contacted
>>> individually and has expressed interest in volunteering for and
>>> actively supporting ISOC activities in the region. With time, we
>>> plan to select representative members from organisations having a
>>> membership count
>>> greater than 5. For ex: A chapter member belonging to Cisco
>>> Bangalore maybe selected to serve as a representative for all the
>>> chapter members hailing from Cisco Bangalore. On similar lines
>>> company/organisation representatives, for the chapter will be
>>> selected for other organisations (Oracle, Intel, Yahoo etc.).
>>>
>>> Manish Chauhan
>>> Swati Pandey
>>> Abhinav Asthana
>>> Amandeep Uppal
>>> Vikas Coca
>>> Govinda Upadhyay
>>> Tanmay Sarkar
>>> Saravanakumar Sr.
>>> Dinesh Garg
>>> Ohmkaar Kambhampati
>>> Praveen Garg
>>> Natarajan Bharathwaj
>>> Sumit Agarwal
>>> Kushal Agarwal
>>> Lokesh Harnal
>>> Crishna Carthik
>>> Sachin Vijayachandran
>>> Dhruv Mittal
>>> Amit Agarkhed
>>> Abhimanyu Vatsya
>>> Sivaraman Siddharth
>>> Chetan Bansal
>>> Abhishek Johri
>>> Rakesh Ganatra
>>> Vikaas Goel
>>> Gautam Partap
>>> Yogesh Kansal
>>> Rohit Oberoi
>>>
>>> F. List of Requirements
>>> There are no special statutory or regulatory requirements for
>>> instituting a chapter of the Internet Society in Bangalore .This has
>>> been verified by contacting the officials of other chapters in India
>>> (Delhi).
>>>
>>> G. Additional Information
>>> Bangalore and ISOC:
>>>
>>> We already have ISOC chapters in Delhi, Kolkata and Chennai but the
>>> south west part of India doesn’t has any chapter as yet, which
>>> includes some major Industrial and Technology hubs like Bangalore,
>>> Hyderabad, Mumbai and Pune.
>>>
>>> India is a developing country with the world’s second largest
>>> population of 100 millions. Despite being an IT hub more than half
>>> of its population still lives in villages and has no access to
>>> computers
>>> and internet. The challenges of improving Internet growth are
>>> multifaceted and interrelated, particularly in developing countries.
>>> They include, for example, access to technical skills and knowledge,
>>> the regulatory and policy environment for information and
>>> telecommunications services, and broader economic and market
>>> factors, language diversity, and the diffusion and reliability of
>>> basic infrastructures and services.
>>>
>>> Being the IT hub and the most developed city of India Bangalore
>>> becomes an obvious choice for opening a chapter. Bangalore is called
>>> the Silicon Valley of India because of the large number of
>>> information technology companies located in the city which
>>> contributed 33% of India's Rs. 144,214 crore (US$ 31 billion) IT
>>> exports in 2006-07. It has been recently declared as the India’s
>>> leading IT exporter and which is India's third most populous city
>>> and fifth-most populous urban agglomeration and is also a home to
>>> some of the most well-recognized colleges, research institutions,
>>> Numerous public sector heavy industries, software companies,
>>> aerospace, telecommunications, and defense organizations.
>>>
>>> In recent years, these attributes have propelled Bangalore to the
>>> forefront of the high-tech industry boom in India. It has also been
>>> ranked as one of the world's fastest growing urban areas.
>>> A chapter at Bangalore can serve the community in a much better way
>>> by providing a better platform on both national and international
>>> level.
>>>
>>> Other Information:
>>>
>>> 1>As soon as the chapter is chartered, ISOC Bangalore chapter will
>>> have a state of the art web portal within a month.
>>>
>>> 2>Bangalore chapter of the internet society plans to host an annual
>>> All India cyber security essay competition.
>>>
>>> 3>This draft of the chapter petition and the Bylaws submitted with
>>> this application was circulated amongst and ratified by the 28 ISOC
>>> Global members who are initiating the Bangalore Chapter. As and when
>>> the chapter is chartered and more members join in, the bylaws will
>>> be re-debated among the members present in the first meeting of the
>>> chapter and any changes subsequently notified to the ISOC.
>>>
>>> 4>We expect the membership of the chapter to grow over 500 within
>>> the initial few months itself.
>>>
>>> H. Your Contact Information
>>> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan [ Global Member, ISOC]
>>>
>>>
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