[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India
Sébastien Bachollet
sebastien.bachollet at free.fr
Mon Sep 28 08:32:04 PDT 2009
Hello,
I would like on my own behalf to support both Siva and Franck position in
this discussion.
Chapter must be a bottom-up process but the first think that ISOC World must
do if a group from one country is coming to them is ask and help this group
to be in touch with the chapter(s) of the country (even if there are already
more than one).
If together they decide to have more than one chapter it will be coming from
the ground and that OK.
I know that the history of US chaptersss are not the same, but please there
are other way to do for the good of Internet, of ISOC...
Lest try to be inclusive. ISOC is not the place to setup the Chapters on
religion, culture differences.
Our goal must be to have one chapter in each country. If there is more in
some countries welcome but it must not be a goal.
It could be a good topic for one of the next F2F Chapters and members
meeting.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet
sebastien.bachollet at free.fr
+33 6 07 66 89 33
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-
> delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de Carlos Vera Quintana
> Envoyé : lundi 28 septembre 2009 13:51
> À : chapter-support at isoc.org; Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> Cc : Chapter Delegates; chapter-support at isoc.org
> Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in
> Bangalore, India
>
> The points for us are:
>
> 1. Strong ISOC presence means to having national presence and this
> means to
> have members from several regions or provinces in country. In small
> countries like Ecuador (270.000 square kilometers in total and 13
> millions
> people in total) any chapter from any city has to work national. In
> bigger
> countries one chapter will have enough action field in one region for
> size
> and population.
>
> 2. ISOC HQ has to incentive the work of national chapters not to
> discourage
> it. A national chapter in USA, or INDIA has a size hundred of times
> bigger
> than a national chapter in countries like Ecuador so there seems better
> to
> organize in regions for more successful action.
>
> 3. Cultural aspects must be determinant. In Ecuador we have diversity
> in
> culture and nationality but have no problems with religion or some
> other
> cultural aspects that in some countries can derive in army conflicts.
> I
> mean any Ecuadorian is able to work in any place. This is not always
> the
> situation in another countries where regions are religious and
> culturally
> determinant and this aspect must be carefully analyzed.
>
> Some questions arise then: (Not for INDIA but for any new chapter)
>
> 1. Does chapters compete for representing or work with a culture or
> religion
> and not only in a region or territory? I mean if overlap exists what
> this
> mean in practical terms? Does it mean interference with other chapters?
> Are
> there some cultural or religious conflict there?
>
> 2. Does chapters compete for economic resources from ISOC HQ? I mean if
> creation of some new chapter will cause lack of resources for another?
>
> ISOC HQ has to work in some criteria for defining territory and scope
> for
> chapters actions. In Ecuador for example any initiative must be and is
> national but we can develop certain strategic programs for focal groups
> (indigenous, afro ecuadorian or so) We have no cultural or religious
> conflicts at a level that put in risk thinks or people.
>
> Please when making a decision, consider the cultural aspects of
> countries.
> Most of time this is determinant in certain regions and countries.
>
> Carlos
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sabrina Wilmot" <wilmot at isoc.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:25 AM
> To: "Sivasubramanian Muthusamy" <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> Cc: <chapter-support at isoc.org>; "Chapter Delegates"
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in
> Bangalore,
> India
>
> > Dear Sivasubramanian,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments. I understand your concerns. However I agree
> with
> > you that having a stronger presence of ISOC in the respective regions
> is
> > desirable and will give more visibilty and power to the work of the
> > Internet Society. We have Chapters in other countries that cover
> parts of
> > a same geographical area and do complement each other well in terms
> of
> > their scope and activities.
> >
> > At the recent Chapters workshop in Delhi, you were part of the very
> > positive discussion about closer collaboration between the Indian
> > Chapters. Many useful suggestions were made on how the Indian
> Chapters
> > could work more effectively and closer together.
> >
> > An important pre-requisite that was emphasised at the workshop was
> the
> > need for the local Chapters to have finshed the process of legal
> > registration, are following their bylaws, hold elections and work to
> put
> > into effect their planned activities. One suggestion here, would be
> for
> > the Chennai and Bangalore Chapter, once formed to hold a joint event
> > (apply for event funding money), or to apply for a community grant
> > together.
> >
> > I (and I think you too) met the applicant Mr Manish Chauhan in Delhi.
> He
> > and his group have laid out well thought through plans for their
> first
> > activities and have already reached out to local partners and
> > organisations to get wide support in Bangalore. Seeing the huge
> potential
> > and for Internet development and the need for education in India, the
> > expectation would be that this new Chapter would support and
> strengthen
> > the work already started by the Chapters in India.
> >
> > Should you have any further concerns or would like to discuss this, I
> > would be happy to discuss with you offline.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sabrina Wilmot
> > Manager, Chapters & Individual Members
> > Internet Society (ISOC) www.isoc.org
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > On 9/25/2009 11:01 AM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> >> Hello Sabrina, Eudardo
> >>
> >> ISOC India Chennai was chartered as a chapter covering the
> geographical
> >> regions of Tamilnadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Kerala. Out of
> the
> >> 120 members of ISOC India Chennai, 34 members are from Bangalore
> >> (Karnataka). Chapter membership grew from 40 members in 2007 to 120
> as on
> >> date.
> >>
> >> We have had two meetings in Bangalore and a OneWebDay event last
> year in
> >> a college campus with participation of 150 students. Last year the
> >> members from Bangalore took interest in developing the Chapter web.
> One
> >> of the Chapter officers - Satyadhyan Chickerur is from Bangalore;
> Vinayak
> >> Hegde, who was awarded the IETF fellowship to Stockholm is a member
> from
> >> Bangalore and some post-IETF outreach activities were discussed with
> him
> >> which would take place in Bangalore to reach out to the Opensource
> and
> >> other IT community in Bangalore to encourage them to take part in
> IETF
> >> work.
> >>
> >> Geographically, Bangalore city is 20 kilometers from the border of
> >> Tamilnadu and there is a close interconnection between the IT
> community
> >> in Bangalore and Chennai.
> >>
> >> It is good to see a group of professionals in Bangalore coming
> forward to
> >> take interest in ISOC. If Chapter support could advise them to take
> part
> >> in ISOC as part of ISOC India Chennai it would certainly give the
> Chennai
> >> chapter further strength. After the Chennai chapter takes further
> shape
> >> with a range of activities in Bangalore city, Chennai could think of
> >> bifurcating the Chapter into two of three - one Chapter in chennai,
> one
> >> in Hyderabad, one in Bangalore, but right now considering this a new
> >> chapter application clashes with the existing structure and
> membership of
> >> ISOC India Chennai.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> >> ISOC India Chennai.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Eduardo Diaz
> >> <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is seems to us that this chapter should be allowed to be formed.
> By
> >> the way we did not see the by-laws but assumed that you have
> done
> >> that and thet they follow ISOC guidelines.
> >>
> >> Eduardo Diaz
> >> ISOC- Puerto Rico
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org
> >> <mailto:wilmot at isoc.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Colleagues,
> >>
> >> The following application for a Chapter in Bangalore, India,
> has
> >> been received. It is being sent to this list for peer
> comment
> >> and review.
> >>
> >> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not
> >> officially been recognised by ISOC.
> >>
> >> If there are people on this list that know the individuals
> >> proposing to establish the Chapter, feedback is especially
> >> welcome.
> >>
> >> ~~~~ For the Chapter delegates attending the INET conference
> in
> >> Delhi today, you can meet Mr. Manish Chauhan here. I know
> some
> >> of you did already. ~~~~
> >>
> >> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the
> deadline is
> >> 2 October 2009.
> >>
> >> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Sabrina Wilmot
> >> ISOC
> >>
> >> PS: Please note that private contact information has been
> >> removed from the application below but is on file with ISOC.
> >>
> >> -------------------------------
> >> Chapter Application for ‘Bangalore Chapter of the Internet
> >> Society’
> >>
> >> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> >> The chapter will be known as "Bangalore Chapter of Internet
> >> Society".
> >>
> >> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> >> This Chapter will serve persons who live or work in the
> >> geographic area which includes (but is not limited to)
> >> Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune, Mumbai, Goa and nearby areas on
> a
> >> non-exclusive basis.
> >>
> >> C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter
> >> Mission: "To assure the beneficial, open evolution of the
> global
> >> Internet and its related internetworking technologies
> through
> >> leadership in standards, issues, and education.".
> >>
> >> Objectives-
> >> 1) To provide the leadership, vision, and advocacy efforts
> >> necessary to educate the public and engender a healthy and
> >> receptive environment to Digital Convergence in the
> Bangalore
> >> Area.
> >> 2) To provide broad-based representation of the Indian
> Internet
> >> community both nationally and internationally.
> >> 3) To provide a service for the benefit of the community
> >> generally by enabling individuals, groups, and organisations
> to
> >> use the Internet effectively for communication,
> collaboration,
> >> education, and innovation without any discrimination on the
> >> basis of race, color, sex, language, religion, political or
> >> other opinion, social origin, property, birth or other
> status
> >> and to provide information, assistance, archives, and other
> >> relevant resources for Indian Internet users.
> >> 4) To give expression to the viewpoint of Indian Internet
> users
> >> to business, industry, the government, the media, and
> society in
> >> general, by providing information and promoting education.
> >> 5) To affiliate with other Indian Internet-focused
> organisations
> >> for co-ordination, collaboration and education in order to
> >> further the objectives of the Society.
> >> 6) To promote, facilitate, and conduct research relating to
> the
> >> Internet and internetworking.
> >> 7) To develop and maintain formal and informal relationships
> >> with the international Internet community.
> >>
> >> D. Founding Members of the Chapter
> >> The Bangalore Chapter of the Internet Society is being
> initiated
> >> by the following 3 founding members:
> >> 1> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan
> >> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC.
> >> Currently: Member of Technical Staff, Oracle India
> Development
> >> Center
> >> (Bangalore)
> >> 2> (Ms.) Swati Pandey
> >> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
> >> 3> (Mr.) Abhinav Asthana
> >> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
> >>
> >> E. List of Supporters
> >> Below is a list of 28 Global Members of ISOC (with their
> contact
> >> information and other details) who belong to Bangalore or
> nearby
> >> areas and who are in support of setting up the "Bangalore
> >> Chapter of the Internet Society ". Each member in this list
> has
> >> been contacted individually and has expressed interest in
> >> volunteering for and actively supporting ISOC activities in
> the
> >> region. With time, we plan to select representative members
> from
> >> organisations having a membership count
> >> greater than 5. For ex: A chapter member belonging to Cisco
> >> Bangalore maybe selected to serve as a representative for
> all
> >> the chapter members hailing from Cisco Bangalore. On similar
> >> lines company/organisation representatives, for the chapter
> will
> >> be selected for other organisations (Oracle, Intel, Yahoo
> etc.).
> >>
> >> Manish Chauhan
> >> Swati Pandey
> >> Abhinav Asthana
> >> Amandeep Uppal
> >> Vikas Coca
> >> Govinda Upadhyay
> >> Tanmay Sarkar
> >> Saravanakumar Sr.
> >> Dinesh Garg
> >> Ohmkaar Kambhampati
> >> Praveen Garg
> >> Natarajan Bharathwaj
> >> Sumit Agarwal
> >> Kushal Agarwal
> >> Lokesh Harnal
> >> Crishna Carthik
> >> Sachin Vijayachandran
> >> Dhruv Mittal
> >> Amit Agarkhed
> >> Abhimanyu Vatsya
> >> Sivaraman Siddharth
> >> Chetan Bansal
> >> Abhishek Johri
> >> Rakesh Ganatra
> >> Vikaas Goel
> >> Gautam Partap
> >> Yogesh Kansal
> >> Rohit Oberoi
> >>
> >> F. List of Requirements
> >> There are no special statutory or regulatory requirements
> for
> >> instituting a chapter of the Internet Society in Bangalore
> .This
> >> has been verified by contacting the officials of other
> chapters
> >> in India
> >> (Delhi).
> >>
> >> G. Additional Information
> >> Bangalore and ISOC:
> >>
> >> We already have ISOC chapters in Delhi, Kolkata and Chennai
> but
> >> the south west part of India doesn’t has any chapter as yet,
> >> which includes some major Industrial and Technology hubs
> like
> >> Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai and Pune.
> >>
> >> India is a developing country with the world’s second
> largest
> >> population of 100 millions. Despite being an IT hub more
> than
> >> half of its population still lives in villages and has no
> access
> >> to computers
> >> and internet. The challenges of improving Internet growth
> are
> >> multifaceted and interrelated, particularly in developing
> >> countries. They include, for example, access to technical
> skills
> >> and knowledge, the regulatory and policy environment for
> >> information and telecommunications services, and broader
> >> economic and market factors, language diversity, and the
> >> diffusion and reliability of basic infrastructures and
> services.
> >>
> >> Being the IT hub and the most developed city of India
> Bangalore
> >> becomes an obvious choice for opening a chapter. Bangalore
> is
> >> called the Silicon Valley of India because of the large
> number
> >> of information technology companies located in the city
> which
> >> contributed 33% of India's Rs. 144,214 crore (US$ 31
> billion) IT
> >> exports in 2006-07. It has been recently declared as the
> India’s
> >> leading IT exporter and which is India's third most populous
> >> city and fifth-most populous urban agglomeration and is also
> a
> >> home to some of the most well-recognized colleges, research
> >> institutions, Numerous public sector heavy industries,
> software
> >> companies, aerospace, telecommunications, and defense
> >> organizations.
> >>
> >> In recent years, these attributes have propelled Bangalore
> to
> >> the forefront of the high-tech industry boom in India. It
> has
> >> also been ranked as one of the world's fastest growing urban
> >> areas.
> >> A chapter at Bangalore can serve the community in a much
> better
> >> way by providing a better platform on both national and
> >> international level.
> >>
> >> Other Information:
> >>
> >> 1>As soon as the chapter is chartered, ISOC Bangalore
> chapter
> >> will have a state of the art web portal within a month.
> >>
> >> 2>Bangalore chapter of the internet society plans to host an
> >> annual All India cyber security essay competition.
> >>
> >> 3>This draft of the chapter petition and the Bylaws
> submitted
> >> with this application was circulated amongst and ratified by
> the
> >> 28 ISOC Global members who are initiating the Bangalore
> Chapter.
> >> As and when the chapter is chartered and more members join
> in,
> >> the bylaws will be re-debated among the members present in
> the
> >> first meeting of the chapter and any changes subsequently
> >> notified to the ISOC.
> >>
> >> 4>We expect the membership of the chapter to grow over 500
> >> within the initial few months itself.
> >>
> >> H. Your Contact Information
> >> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan [ Global Member, ISOC]
> >>
> >>
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