[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India

[Veni Markovski]

Well,
We'll have a chapter meeting at the coming in 2 weeks ICANN meeting,
so perhaps we can discuss there.

>From what I read, I'm really worried that, regardless of the time
passed since I was on the ISOC Board, not many things have changed in
some aspects of the attitude towards the chapters.

Best,
Veni

On 10/10/09, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Sabrina,
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sivasubramanian, et al,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your concerns and observations. I will do my best to
>> address your thoughts in this reply. Some of them were also lengthly
>> discussed in the meeting Sivasubramanian, Rajnesh Singh and I had
>> yesterday.
>>
>> The overall goal for Chapters is to work well alongside each other, and to
>> be mutually supportive of each other and cooperate well together as you
>> try
>> to help further the ISOC mission in India and other countries.
>>
>> Through the course of this discussion and our due dilligence process, we
>> have heard support for the creation of a Chapter in Bangalore. That is
>> also
>> supported by Sivasubramanian
>
>
> No,  I did not say that I supported the immediate creation of the Bangalore
> chapter.
>
>
>> and others in India with whom we have spoken.
>>
>> However, this new (or any other) Chapter application is *not* a
>> competition
>> for members or about altering the constitution of an existing Chapter.
>
>
> It is exactly that.
>
>
>> It is about how to be *most effective* in advancing the goals and the
>> mission of the Internet Society and about how to be most effective in
>> meeting the needs of particular groups of our members.
>>
>> India has a huge population. There are of over 62 million people (i.e.
>> potential ISOC members) alone in the state of Tamil Nadu, of which Chennai
>> is the capital.
>> Several people have repeatedly pointed out the very important different
>> linguistic and cultural aspects in India that emphasise the role for a
>> Chapter in Bangalore (capital of the state Karnataka, population over 52
>> million). Taking the diversities into account, we also anticipate that
>> there
>> will be more Chapter applications emerging from different parts of India.
>> As
>> ISOC works to strengthen its presence and visibility in India, one would
>> expect this to be the natural outcome. Of course, their scope needs to be
>> different to avoid any duplication of effort or overlap.
>>
>> We would like to work with Sivasubramanian and the new group to ensure the
>> best outcome in terms of advancing the mission and goals of the Internet
>> Society. The applicant and his group are very well aware of the work
>> Chapters in India are doing and have clearly specified plans that don't
>> overlap with the existing Chapters.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian, as agreed in our meeting yesterday, the concrete next
>> steps in this case of the Bangalore application are:
>>
>> 1) As part of the due dilligence with this application, I'm awaiting
>> written answers from the applicant to questions I had discussed with him
>> during the interview in Delhi. These will be part of our review and I will
>> discuss them with you.
>>
>
> It appears that you have decided to go ahead with the creation of the
> Bangalore chapter, without the slightest inclination to make amends.
>
>>
>> 2) A meeting will take place between ISOC staff, Sivasubramanian (Chennai
>> Chapter) and the new group to talk about the Chapters' scope and a
>> potential
>> collaboration.
>>
>
> Why is the Bangalore application given such a special status? I have never
> come across a chapter application given such an opportunity as a meeting
> with another chapter ahead of its approval. Perhaps you have already
> approved the Bangalore application?
>
> And, I don't think another meeting with you would serve any purpose. You
> were not inclined to admit that you were wrong during my meeting with you
> Instead your focus was to place arguments on record to prove that you have
> done the right thing by promoting the Bangalore chapter. Towards this end,
> you were offensive in so many ways.
>
> This could instead be discussed in a Chapters' Meeting.
>
>
>> Thanks to all who gave input to this discussion and also to all who gave
>> their feedback offline.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>      Sabrina Wilmot
>>      Manager, Chapters & Individual Members
>>      Internet Society (ISOC)   www.isoc.org
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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