[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India

[Sivasubramanian Muthusamy]

Hello Sabrina,

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear Sivasubramanian, et al,
>
> Thanks for sharing your concerns and observations. I will do my best to
> address your thoughts in this reply. Some of them were also lengthly
> discussed in the meeting Sivasubramanian, Rajnesh Singh and I had yesterday.
>
> The overall goal for Chapters is to work well alongside each other, and to
> be mutually supportive of each other and cooperate well together as you try
> to help further the ISOC mission in India and other countries.
>
> Through the course of this discussion and our due dilligence process, we
> have heard support for the creation of a Chapter in Bangalore. That is also
> supported by Sivasubramanian


No,  I did not say that I supported the immediate creation of the Bangalore
chapter.


> and others in India with whom we have spoken.
>
> However, this new (or any other) Chapter application is *not* a competition
> for members or about altering the constitution of an existing Chapter.


It is exactly that.


> It is about how to be *most effective* in advancing the goals and the
> mission of the Internet Society and about how to be most effective in
> meeting the needs of particular groups of our members.
>
> India has a huge population. There are of over 62 million people (i.e.
> potential ISOC members) alone in the state of Tamil Nadu, of which Chennai
> is the capital.
> Several people have repeatedly pointed out the very important different
> linguistic and cultural aspects in India that emphasise the role for a
> Chapter in Bangalore (capital of the state Karnataka, population over 52
> million). Taking the diversities into account, we also anticipate that there
> will be more Chapter applications emerging from different parts of India. As
> ISOC works to strengthen its presence and visibility in India, one would
> expect this to be the natural outcome. Of course, their scope needs to be
> different to avoid any duplication of effort or overlap.
>
> We would like to work with Sivasubramanian and the new group to ensure the
> best outcome in terms of advancing the mission and goals of the Internet
> Society. The applicant and his group are very well aware of the work
> Chapters in India are doing and have clearly specified plans that don't
> overlap with the existing Chapters.
>
> Sivasubramanian, as agreed in our meeting yesterday, the concrete next
> steps in this case of the Bangalore application are:
>
> 1) As part of the due dilligence with this application, I'm awaiting
> written answers from the applicant to questions I had discussed with him
> during the interview in Delhi. These will be part of our review and I will
> discuss them with you.
>

It appears that you have decided to go ahead with the creation of the
Bangalore chapter, without the slightest inclination to make amends.

>
> 2) A meeting will take place between ISOC staff, Sivasubramanian (Chennai
> Chapter) and the new group to talk about the Chapters' scope and a potential
> collaboration.
>

Why is the Bangalore application given such a special status? I have never
come across a chapter application given such an opportunity as a meeting
with another chapter ahead of its approval. Perhaps you have already
approved the Bangalore application?

And, I don't think another meeting with you would serve any purpose. You
were not inclined to admit that you were wrong during my meeting with you
Instead your focus was to place arguments on record to prove that you have
done the right thing by promoting the Bangalore chapter. Towards this end,
you were offensive in so many ways.

This could instead be discussed in a Chapters' Meeting.


> Thanks to all who gave input to this discussion and also to all who gave
> their feedback offline.
>
> Regards,
>
>      Sabrina Wilmot
>      Manager, Chapters & Individual Members
>      Internet Society (ISOC)   www.isoc.org
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