[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India
Veni Markovski
veni at veni.com
Fri Oct 9 03:20:57 PDT 2009
Anne, some comments below:
Anne Lord wrote:
>>>> 1) ISOC HQ should direct members first to existing chapters
> Yes agreed. This *is* standard procedure. As I explained previously
> we omitted this step and it was not intentional. Please accept our
> apologies for this.
I'm willing to accept the explanation that by default ISOC does not not
do bad things intentionally, if you accept the explanation that the ISOC
chapters do not do bad things intentionally. Because sometimes I have
the feeling that this is not the case.
> from: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/
> "Chapters may be established on a *non-exclusive* basis to serve the
> needs of any specific, cohesive community of interest. Multiple
> Chapters serving overlapping communities are not permitted."
>
> The important point here is that the scope of the proposed Chapter
> must be sufficiently differentiated and not overlapping. We will (and
> do) work with both parties to ensure that is not the case.
You've put in bold the "non-exclusive" basis, but for Shiva and the
members of his chapter, I guess the more important part is the "not
permitted" part.
> I hope this explains some of our general procedures. As I said before
> we are working to revise the procedures and improve our current policy
> framework, so I will be reaching out to many of those that have posted
> and have an interest on this topic for help with this particular piece
> of work.
Do you think that a revision of the policy framework will be enough? May
be I've missed it, but I haven't seen increasing the importance of the
chapters in the ISOC governance model, which could be the only way to
show all chapters that they indeed do matter for ISOC. I can understand
your and your colleagues frustration, as it seems that a huge discussion
only starts, when there is a problem, but don't forget - many of the
*good *things we do locally are never coming to your attention as well.
But if we do something, which someone (be that a chapter member, a
non-member, or just a fake email address) believes is not good, you are
also fast on reacting by reaching out to the chapters, asking them
questions, initiating investigations in some cases, etc.
So, if you are seriously considering improvement of the policy
framework, I believe that many chapters are still wondering why they can
elect only 3 of the Board Trustees, while the organizational members
elect 6. This is the only real measurement on the importance of the
chapters - the right to vote and elect.
best,
veni
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