[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India
Anne Lord
lord at isoc.org
Thu Oct 8 22:24:28 PDT 2009
hi Rudi,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and suggestions. We and I am sure
others would be very interested to hear details on your idea of a
"Chapters support for Chapters" at the forthcoming Chapters and
Members meeting in Seoul. It sounds like an excellent topic for
discussion and we will add it to the agenda. If you have something
more concrete to propose for discussion - even better!
In the same vein, sharing the knowledge and expertise in the Chapter
network to help each other is something that we have tried to
capture in the Chapter Handbook, which is still under development, and
will be finished at the end of the year. Many of you have contributed
your knowledge and expertise to this and it is still not too late to
do so! (so please email <chapter-support at isoc.org> if you you have
information that you think others could learn or benefit from - thank
you). More broadly, "sharing our success" is a theme that we would
like to promote more in next years programmes and in our work.
Look forward to hearing more at the Seoul chapters and members meeting,
Best wishes,
Anne
--
> I also share the concerns of Siva, and agree on the comments of
> Franck and Veni. We need a closer band with our colleagues chapter
> delegates not by having monthly reporting on activities in the
> newsletter but by discussing ongoing problems within chapters by
> chapters. I personally think that this could work better than just
> having HQ pointing to a chapter when an incident occurs. As I see
> the case of India, I can imagine this could easily happen in each
> country, even the smallest ones. If membership to ISOC and ISOC
> chapters is just a question of numbers and officer seats, I'm afraid
> something is wrong in the perception of a chapter.
>
> At the other hand, creating a chapter because another is not really
> active, or doesn't fit in the meanings of some members, there should
> be at least a chapter negotiation with eventually another chapter
> delegate(s) in order to find a consensus on the continuity of the
> initial chapter and, if needed, a close collaboration with old and
> new one.
>
> I would like to propose the set-up of a "Chapters support among
> chapters" where only chapter delegates would be active, and this
> aside the ISOQ HQ chapter support.
> Mission :
> - help chapters in difficulty or almost in sleeping mode;
> - channel activities which are helpful for chapters at regional or
> even local level (sharing ideas);
> - build a forum where cross chapter aspects could be explored, by
> means of samples but also as a drop point for eventually cross
> border activities;
>
> I would like to bring up this proposal to the Seoul meeting, giving
> me the time to work out a draft of the proposal as a project among
> chapters.
>
> All remarks/comments are welcome.
>
> I'm awaiting your reactions,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rudi Vansnick
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> Board member EURALO (ALAC - ICANN)
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>
>
> Veni Markovski schreef:
>> I share Franck's notes, and having the Bulgarian chapter in
>> situations
>> with ISOC.org in the past, I feel Shiva may need more support from
>> the
>> rest of us, while keeping the options for new chapters in India open.
>> After all, it is important to at least try to build good relations
>> not
>> only between ISOC.org and the chapters but also between the chapters
>> in any given country.
>>
>> Veni
>>
>>
>> On 10/8/09, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Shiva,
>>>
>>> We will address your points below in our meeting with you scheduled
>>> today and will send the outcome later to the list.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sabrina Wilmot
>>> Manager, Chapters & Individual Members
>>> Internet Society (ISOC) www.isoc.org
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> On 10/8/2009 4:13 AM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> In the list of members for the proposed Bangalore chapter the
>>>> members'
>>>> organizational affiliations are not shown. Only one of the
>>>> proposers has
>>>> identified himself as from Oracle India Business Center (which now
>>>> includes Sun Microsystems?)
>>>>
>>>> The proposal for the Bangalore chapter is to cover the
>>>> geographical area
>>>> "which includes (but is not limited to) Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune,
>>>> Mumbai, Goa and nearby areas" The chennai chapter is chartered to
>>>> cover
>>>> the geographical regions of Tamilnadu (Chennai), Kerala, Andhra
>>>> Pradesh
>>>> (Hyderabad) and Karnataka (Bangalore). The proposal for Bangalore
>>>> is to
>>>> split away 75 out of our 120 members.
>>>>
>>>> Are we to become a chapter of 45 members from being a chapter of
>>>> 120
>>>> members? Are we to abandon all work being planned in Bangalore?
>>>> Should I
>>>> go back to the chapter list to say that those from other regions
>>>> have to
>>>> join the Bangalore chapter? (It wouldn't make sense if those from
>>>> Bangalore continue with the Chennai chapter, if the Bangalore
>>>> proposal
>>>> is approved.)
>>>>
>>>> It would have been a natural progression if we waited till there
>>>> is some
>>>> more activity at Bangalore and proposed on our own a chapter in
>>>> Bangalore for the convenience of those in Bangalore. Instead this
>>>> application is received and being processed as if Bangalore is
>>>> completely unrelated to the Chennai chapter.
>>>>
>>>> A chapter in Bangalore is a good idea. A chapter is Hyderabad is
>>>> a good
>>>> idea. Rammohan of Affilias and Rajesh Aggarwal of ISOC Delhi have
>>>> said
>>>> this and I agree. But ISOC Chennai already includes Bangalore and
>>>> Hyderabad and why would anyone show an interest in altering the
>>>> constitution of ISOC Chennai? This is not right.
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com
>>>> <mailto:franck at avonsys.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm all for the creation of new chapters in India, but the whole
>>>> point of this discussion was that:
>>>>
>>>> 1) ISOC HQ should direct members first to existing chapters
>>>> 2) if ISOC members are willing to create a new chapter, then
>>>> they
>>>> should get as much as possible the blessing of existing near by
>>>> chapters especially when the proposed chapter is in the area
>>>> of a
>>>> previously chartered chapter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Franck Martin
>>>> http://www.avonsys.com/
>>>> twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rajesh Aggarwal" <rajeshaggarwal.ias at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:rajeshaggarwal.ias at gmail.com>>
>>>> To: "Anne Lord" <lord at isoc.org <mailto:lord at isoc.org>>
>>>> Cc: "Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>, "naresh ajwani"
>>>> <naresh.ajwani at sifycorp.com
>>>> <mailto:naresh.ajwani at sifycorp.com>>,
>>>> chapter-support at isoc.org <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 3 October, 2009 2:32:58 PM GMT +12:00 Fiji
>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter
>>>> in
>>>> Bangalore, India
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I fully support Ram Mohan's remarks regarding the need to have a
>>>> separate chapter for Bangalore. When we revived Delhi Chapter
>>>> more
>>>> than a year ago, we had detailed discussions on this multiple
>>>> Chapters issue from people from many walks of life and different
>>>> cities. Consensus was that rather than forming a single All
>>>> India
>>>> ISOC Chapter, we should encourage "different flowers to
>>>> bloom"- that
>>>> is, different Chapters in major Metros at least. I am sure
>>>> that you
>>>> will soon receive Applications from Hyderabad and Mumbai- all
>>>> of us
>>>> should encourage this rather than trying to throttle new ones
>>>> from
>>>> coming up.
>>>>
>>>> Rajesh Aggarwal,
>>>> (earlier from NIXI, now moved on to new Assignment in Mumbai)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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