[Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bangalore, India
Sabrina Wilmot
wilmot at isoc.org
Fri Oct 2 10:07:21 PDT 2009
Hi Sivasubramanian,
Let's have a meeting next week to discuss this further. I will contact
you off list with details.
Regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Manager, Chapters & Individual Members
Internet Society (ISOC) www.isoc.org
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On 10/2/2009 4:06 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> Hello Anne, Sabrina,
>
> I have some final comments. Sabrina has stated that this thread is open
> for comments till 2nd October. Please extend this by four or five days.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com
> <mailto:franck at avonsys.com>> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
> Franck Martin
> http://www.avonsys.com/
> twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ram Mohan" <rmohan at yahoo.com <mailto:rmohan at yahoo.com>>
> To: "Anne Lord" <lord at isoc.org <mailto:lord at isoc.org>>
> Cc: "Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>,
> chapter-support at isoc.org <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 2:27:09 AM GMT +12:00 Fiji
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in
> Bangalore, India
>
> Anne,
> Thanks for this. The one thing that I do feel kinship with Siva is
> that he (as Chapter lead) did not get early notice on the Bangalore
> situation - as you say below, that was an oversight, but it would
> probably cause me heartburn if I was in the same situation.
>
> In any case, let's try to move forward - we learn from these; I'm
> personally excited to see more chapters getting formed in India.
>
> -Ram
>
> Anne Lord wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Thanks Ram, and everyone who has provided feedback on this
> application. I have read all the emails and have a few
> clarifications to make based on current procedures and practice
> as well as offering some thoughts, first about the general case
> and then about this particular application. Apologies for the
> length of this email.
>
> 1) Policies
>
> The current policy at http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/
> states the following about the "scope" of Chapters in point 3:
>
> "Chapters may be established on a non-exclusive basis to serve
> the needs of any specific, cohesive community of interest.
> Multiple Chapters serving overlapping communities are not
> permitted."
>
> Chapters are established on a non-exclusive basis, and providing
> there is a not an overlapping scope, Chapters can (and do) exist
> in the same area. For example, there are 6 Chapters in Spain (a
> Madrid Chapter, a Spain Chapter, a Galicia Chapter, an Aragonese
> Chapter, a Catalonia Chapter and an Asturias Chapter).
>
> It is probably useful to look at the purpose of Chapters. The
> policy is sufficiently flexible to allow different formats of
> Chapters to exist and co-exist (from which ISOC derives much of
> its strength):
>
> "Chapters of the Internet Society are expected to serve the
> interests of a segment of the global Internet community in a
> manner consistent with the mission and principles of the
> Internet Society <http://www.isoc.org/isoc/mission/principles/>.
> Through a presence local to its community of interest, a
> Chapter focuses on issues and developments important to its
> community. A Chapter recognizes, honours, and uses the culture,
> customs, and language of its community. Every Chapter shall have
> an explicit statement of purpose.
>
> Clearly this needs to be interpreted with some sensitivity and
> no two cases are alike but providing that needs are being met
> and the work and mission of the Internet Society is being
> advanced in a meaningful way, city based, regional and national
> Chapters can happily co-exist.
>
> Finally, a member can become a member of any other Chapter as
> they choose. No one Chapter has a "right" to a member. An
> individual chooses the one that matches their interests most
> closely.
>
> 2) Procedures
>
> When we receive a Chapter application where there is already a
> Chapter operating we attempt to direct the applicant to the
> existing Chapter as a first response.
>
> 3) This application
>
> For the reasons that Ram outlines, and based on other feedback
> in the region, we feel that the proposed Chapter and the
> existing Chapter have a sufficiently large population (5 million
> and 7 million respectively), cultural identity and linguistic
> considerations to warrant separate Chapters. However in this
> case, there was probably some oversight on our part in notifying
> the Chennai Chapter earlier in the process for which we
> apologise. We will also take steps to ensure that the scope is
> sufficiently different and will work with both groups to reach
> an agreement.
>
> As a side note..I have indicated in earlier messages that an
> important piece of work is to revise the Policy framework for
> Chapters. Some excellent preliminary work has already been done
> in the Sphere Labels group, and this work will soon be developed
> further with the help of Peggy Hoffman to help us build a
> revised policy framework for the "Chapter of the Future". If you
> are interested in joining this discussion and helping out,
> please send email to <chapter-support at isoc.org
> <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org>> to be added to the
> sphere-labels mailing list. We will also be reaching out soon to
> reach individuals that help reflect the diversity of the
> Chapters that make up the Internet Society.
>
> As always, feedback and suggestions are very welcome on, or off
> list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Anne
> --
>
>
> On 29/09/2009, at 8:54 AM, Ram Mohan wrote:
>
> I support this application. Chennai (pop. 7 million) and
> Bangalore (pop. 5 million) are two large metros, and would
> potentially draw from completely different sets of members.
> A person from Bangalore would _not_ reasonably identify
> themselves as belonging to the "Chennai" region. The main
> language spoken in Chennai (Tamil) is different from that
> spoken in Bangalore (Kannada). A little known fact might be
> that in pre-independent India (pre 1947), these were
> separate kingdoms.
>
> ISOC would be well advised to take into consideration the
> cultural, linguistic and political tinderbox by calling
> Bangalore a part of the Chennai region.
>
> In North American terms, it would be the equivalent of
> trying to say that Washington DC & New York should merge
> chapters because they are in the Northeast region of the
> USA. Sébastien's proposal of one ISOC chapter per country
> reads to me (in Indian terms) roughly as: "We should only
> have ISOC-EU because all states in the EU are part of the EU."
>
> Siva's case would be bolstered if ISOC Chennai changed its
> charter and focused on being a regional organization. But
> in its current avatar, it is recognized as ISOC _Chennai_
> and as a result will be constrained more by its geographic
> selection of the metropolitan region of Chennai.
>
> -Ram
>
> Sabrina Wilmot wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Bangalore,
> India, has been received. It is being sent to this list
> for peer comment and review.
>
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has
> not officially been recognised by ISOC.
>
> If there are people on this list that know the
> individuals proposing to establish the Chapter, feedback
> is especially welcome.
>
> ~~~~ For the Chapter delegates attending the INET
> conference in Delhi today, you can meet Mr. Manish
> Chauhan here. I know some of you did already. ~~~~
>
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the
> deadline is 2 October 2009.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Best regards,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> ISOC
>
> PS: Please note that private contact information has
> been removed from the application below but is on file
> with ISOC.
>
> -------------------------------
> Chapter Application for ‘Bangalore Chapter of the
> Internet Society’
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> The chapter will be known as "Bangalore Chapter of
> Internet Society".
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> This Chapter will serve persons who live or work in the
> geographic area which includes (but is not limited to)
> Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune, Mumbai, Goa and nearby areas
> on a non-exclusive basis.
>
> C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter
> Mission: "To assure the beneficial, open evolution of
> the global Internet and its related internetworking
> technologies through leadership in standards, issues,
> and education.".
>
> Objectives-
> 1) To provide the leadership, vision, and advocacy
> efforts necessary to educate the public and engender a
> healthy and receptive environment to Digital Convergence
> in the Bangalore Area.
> 2) To provide broad-based representation of the Indian
> Internet community both nationally and internationally.
> 3) To provide a service for the benefit of the community
> generally by enabling individuals, groups, and
> organisations to use the Internet effectively for
> communication, collaboration, education, and innovation
> without any discrimination on the basis of race, color,
> sex, language, religion, political or other opinion,
> social origin, property, birth or other status and to
> provide information, assistance, archives, and other
> relevant resources for Indian Internet users.
> 4) To give expression to the viewpoint of Indian
> Internet users to business, industry, the government,
> the media, and society in general, by providing
> information and promoting education.
> 5) To affiliate with other Indian Internet-focused
> organisations for co-ordination, collaboration and
> education in order to further the objectives of the
> Society.
> 6) To promote, facilitate, and conduct research relating
> to the Internet and internetworking.
> 7) To develop and maintain formal and informal
> relationships with the international Internet community.
>
> D. Founding Members of the Chapter
> The Bangalore Chapter of the Internet Society is being
> initiated by the following 3 founding members:
> 1> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan
> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC.
> Currently: Member of Technical Staff, Oracle India
> Development Center
> (Bangalore)
> 2> (Ms.) Swati Pandey
> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
> 3> (Mr.) Abhinav Asthana
> Affiliation: Global Member, ISOC
>
> E. List of Supporters
> Below is a list of 28 Global Members of ISOC (with their
> contact information and other details) who belong to
> Bangalore or nearby areas and who are in support of
> setting up the "Bangalore Chapter of the Internet
> Society ". Each member in this list has been contacted
> individually and has expressed interest in volunteering
> for and actively supporting ISOC activities in the
> region. With time, we plan to select representative
> members from organisations having a membership count
> greater than 5. For ex: A chapter member belonging to
> Cisco Bangalore maybe selected to serve as a
> representative for all the chapter members hailing from
> Cisco Bangalore. On similar lines company/organisation
> representatives, for the chapter will be selected for
> other organisations (Oracle, Intel, Yahoo etc.).
>
> Manish Chauhan
> Swati Pandey
> Abhinav Asthana
> Amandeep Uppal
> Vikas Coca
> Govinda Upadhyay
> Tanmay Sarkar
> Saravanakumar Sr.
> Dinesh Garg
> Ohmkaar Kambhampati
> Praveen Garg
> Natarajan Bharathwaj
> Sumit Agarwal
> Kushal Agarwal
> Lokesh Harnal
> Crishna Carthik
> Sachin Vijayachandran
> Dhruv Mittal
> Amit Agarkhed
> Abhimanyu Vatsya
> Sivaraman Siddharth
> Chetan Bansal
> Abhishek Johri
> Rakesh Ganatra
> Vikaas Goel
> Gautam Partap
> Yogesh Kansal
> Rohit Oberoi
>
> F. List of Requirements
> There are no special statutory or regulatory
> requirements for instituting a chapter of the Internet
> Society in Bangalore .This has been verified by
> contacting the officials of other chapters in India
> (Delhi).
>
> G. Additional Information
> Bangalore and ISOC:
>
> We already have ISOC chapters in Delhi, Kolkata and
> Chennai but the south west part of India doesn’t has any
> chapter as yet, which includes some major Industrial and
> Technology hubs like Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai and Pune.
>
> India is a developing country with the world’s second
> largest population of 100 millions. Despite being an IT
> hub more than half of its population still lives in
> villages and has no access to computers
> and internet. The challenges of improving Internet
> growth are multifaceted and interrelated, particularly
> in developing countries. They include, for example,
> access to technical skills and knowledge, the regulatory
> and policy environment for information and
> telecommunications services, and broader economic and
> market factors, language diversity, and the diffusion
> and reliability of basic infrastructures and services.
>
> Being the IT hub and the most developed city of India
> Bangalore becomes an obvious choice for opening a
> chapter. Bangalore is called the Silicon Valley of India
> because of the large number of information technology
> companies located in the city which contributed 33% of
> India's Rs. 144,214 crore (US$ 31 billion) IT exports in
> 2006-07. It has been recently declared as the India’s
> leading IT exporter and which is India's third most
> populous city and fifth-most populous urban
> agglomeration and is also a home to some of the most
> well-recognized colleges, research institutions,
> Numerous public sector heavy industries, software
> companies, aerospace, telecommunications, and defense
> organizations.
>
> In recent years, these attributes have propelled
> Bangalore to the forefront of the high-tech industry
> boom in India. It has also been ranked as one of the
> world's fastest growing urban areas.
> A chapter at Bangalore can serve the community in a much
> better way by providing a better platform on both
> national and international level.
>
> Other Information:
>
> 1>As soon as the chapter is chartered, ISOC Bangalore
> chapter will have a state of the art web portal within a
> month.
>
> 2>Bangalore chapter of the internet society plans to
> host an annual All India cyber security essay competition.
>
> 3>This draft of the chapter petition and the Bylaws
> submitted with this application was circulated amongst
> and ratified by the 28 ISOC Global members who are
> initiating the Bangalore Chapter. As and when the
> chapter is chartered and more members join in, the
> bylaws will be re-debated among the members present in
> the first meeting of the chapter and any changes
> subsequently notified to the ISOC.
>
> 4>We expect the membership of the chapter to grow over
> 500 within the initial few months itself.
>
> H. Your Contact Information
> (Mr.) Manish Chauhan [ Global Member, ISOC]
>
>
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