[Chapter-delegates] Feedback Requested: ISOC Project Funding turn out

[Sivasubramanian Muthusamy]

Hello Louis,

Thanks for your comments. I hope the practices of APQC are comparatively
examined in this evaluation process.

It is not only that situations differ, but there other reasons why I feel
that the "two rounds a year, $10,000 per chapter" process is sub-optimal.
The size and scale of the projects differ from Chapter to Chapter. A certain
chapter might be interested in taking up a micro-project that can't be taken
up for want of $500 while a large and evolved chapter might wish to
undertake some thing ambitious but limited by the $10,000 limit. If such a
chapter comes up with a project that would significantly contribute to the
ISOC mission and requires $100,000 or even more, why not? Here the rationale
is that it is easier for ISOC HQ to reach possible sponsors on a large
scale, than for a Chapter to do it on its own.

Also, a certain project may come up in a chapter for implementation during
January, so to speak, and if the Chapter funding cycle timings do not
coincide, the project would not fit in.

The assumption that in an ongoing process all funds available would get
exhausted within months is wrong in a setting with a conservative
administration.

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca> wrote:

> Salut Patrick,
>
> Of course, I understand the rationale behind the fact that there should be
> two rounds of applications. And it's fine with me. Nonetheless, I suggest
> that we take a look at APQC's practices (American Productivity and Quality
> Center). The rationale would then be to analyse a project with a given
> situation in a country or region and to decide if the project is good for
> this Chapter (or region). The purpose is to help improving a given situation
> and not to compare it with an other region, an other project. I'm not sure
> that Québec could be compared to Sivasubramanian's situation in India nore
> should it be compared to a new Chapter with little membership, and so forth.
>
> Just trying to help improving the process...
>
> Louis Houle
>
> Patrick Vande Walle a écrit :
>
>  Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote, On 6/11/08 20:11:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "/ISOC chapters in general, are expected to raise funds from Industry
>>> and do a number of activities, and are not really expected to approach
>>> for government funding like other NGOs. It will not go well with ISOC
>>> also/."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a similar story. Some years ago, while approaching the local
>> branch of a well known router and network equipment vendor for
>> sponsorship, I was answered that they already sponsored ISOC HQ and they
>> saw no need to contribute twice to the same organization.
>> Seems like there is a some work ahead for our communications department
>> to address these misunderstandings.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, Louise Houle's Questions, "Is there a need for opening such a
>>> program with a limited period of time to apply ? Why isn't it just
>>> available ? " are quite valid. Why don't we make Chapter Funding an
>>> on-going process?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Speaking as a former member of the projects committee, I can say this:
>> The rationale behind the fact that we have 2 rounds of applications per
>> year is quite simple. The budget is limited. If it was an ongoing
>> process, this would mean "first come, first served" and we may end up
>> with the whole budget being used long before the end of the year.
>>
>> Until recently, we received more proposals than there was money
>> available to cover them all. So, a selection process was needed, and the
>> project committee convened twice a year. Obviously, with an ongoing
>> process, comparing proposals is not possible.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Patrick Vande Walle
>>
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