[Chapter-delegates] Help urgent

[Anne Lord]

hi Sebastian,

Just to respond to the issue of relationships - you raise very good 
points. I would like to warmly invite you join the Sphere project.  The 
purpose of the Sphere project is to look at the relationship between 
ISOC chapters and HQ and to examine ways that this can be improved. The 
details of the project are on the chapter wiki at:

http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project

This is a quote from the introduction page:

--
Introduction and welcome to the ISOC Sphere Project

The ISOC ‘Sphere’ project is introduced as an activity that seeks to 
develop the relationships between ISOC Chapters and ISOC staff. It is a 
key component of the Chapter Development Plan, which is a multi-year 
strategic effort to develop the ISOC chapters into strong, effective and 
robust organisations that promote and defend the principles of the 
Internet Society. The overarching goal is make the best use of ISOC’s 
collective skills and talents to advance the organization and the 
mission of the organization.
--

Your input and participation to this project would be extremely 
valuable. The consultation phase is still underway (but will soon move 
to project work) so I would like to invite you and any others with an 
interest in this topic to join the Sphere project.  You can do so by 
sending email to <project-sphere-admin at isoc.org>.

I am happy to chat if you need more information.

Best wishes
Anne
--

Sebastian Ricciardi wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> This seems to be a very sensitive problem. Of course, we (ISOC.Ar) are eager
> to help, but it seems to be an internal problem of the chapter, that may be
> well managed by the very competent ISOC Staff (Ann and Sebastian).
> However, it seems to me that this situation lead us to rethink about the
> chapters ISOC has around the world, their role, and their relationship with
> ISOC.org and between them. Recent discussions between Veni and Bill Graham
> may be another issue that may be placed in this frame.
> I�m just arrived form holidays, so I have some work to catch up. I�ll try to
> explain these ideas better later on this week.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Sebastian Ricciardi
> ISOC.Ar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Luis
> Malpartida
> Sent: Martes, 19 de Febrero de 2008 01:56 p.m.
> To: eduardo.diaz at isocpr.org
> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org; fmonras at adda-multilingual.com;
> m.a.g.j.leenaars at isoc.nl; peter.bakonyi at ihm.gov.hu; rajnesh at pataranet.com;
> alebron at softekpr.com; info at isocnig.org.ng; mtodd at isoc-la.org;
> secretaria at isoc-es.org; camilo.rueda at isoc-madrid.org; diallo-iam at yahoo.com;
> bureau at isoc.nl; quaynor at ghana.com; ivs at mnl.sequel.net; sek at isoc.de;
> patrick at isoc.lu; secretary at ireland.isoc.org.ie; anne at isoc.org;
> amayorga at rtn.net.mx; sec at kr.isoc.org; rishi at gipi.org.in; safa at madi.ps;
> qasim at isocpk.org; chair at ireland.isoc.org; abir at isocpk.org; info at isoc.org.za
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Help urgent
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Eduardo,
> (versi�n en espa�ol m�s abajo)
> 
> My name is Luis Malpartida, from Peru. I was/am a member of the last
> Peruvian 
> chapter \"in formation\" board. Jose Francisco was the last �elected
> president\". 
> We were elected in 2006 for a period of three months and reelected four
> times 
> until beginning 2007.
> 
> Jose Francisco duties were to create the chapter, formalize it and make 
> elections. However he didn\'t, time passed and (during 2007) he did not
> inform 
> the members about his work. He just informed us about a trip he did to an
> ISOC 
> meeting (probably in august).
> 
> Last year, in November, he announced a new board was elected and that it
> would 
> begin functions that month (probably while Sebastian Bachollet was visiting 
> us). He also announced that according to ISOC directions we need to follow a
> 
> very demanding evaluation process in order to evaluate if we could rejoin
> ISOC 
> Peru.
> 
> When the other members of ISOC Peru and I knew about Jose Francisco 
> intentions; asked him when the elections occurred and who the members of the
> 
> new board were. Of course, he could not organize elections without, at
> least, 
> inform the other members of his board.
> 
> After great pressure, Jose Francisco answered us that the new board would
> not 
> begin functions. But since November, Jose Francisco has not informed us
> about 
> his work, has changed the ISOC Peru web page removing all information about 
> the members of the board, and has published a list of members without 
> including the ones who elected him two years ago. We have never met the
> people 
> who appear in the chapter page as members, except for Pedro Mantilla and 
> Francisco Rubio.
> 
> For those reasons, the other members of the board, elected with Jose
> Francisco 
> in 2006, and the founder members of ISOC Peru, decided to removed him and 
> elected an interim president for five months. The new president will be 
> responsible for formalized the chapter, get recognition form ISOC, and make 
> elections. Yesterday we sent emails to Sebastian Bellagamba telling him
> about 
> these decisions, we also wrote Jose Francisco.
> 
> We, in Peru, will gladly accept all your efforts in order to reestablish
> good 
> chapter governance.
> 
> Regards
> Luis Malpartida
> 
> Gracias Eduardo,
> 
> Mi nombre es Luis Malpartida, de Per�. Yo fui/soy miembro de la �ltima 
> directiva del cap�tulo Peruano �en formaci�n�. Jose Francisco fue el 
> �ltimo �presidente electo�. Fuimos elegidos en 2006 por un per�odo de 3
> meses 
> y reelegidos 4 veces hasta inicios de 2007.
> 
> Las responsabilidades de Jose Francisco fueron crear el cap�tulo,
> formalizarlo 
> y convocar elecciones. Sin embargo no lo hizo, el tiempo pas� y (durante
> 2007) 
> no inform� a los miembros de sus avances. El s�lo nos informo de un viaje
> que 
> hizo a un meeting de ISOC (probablemente en agosto).
> 
> El a�o pasado, en Noviembre, el anunci� que  se hab�a nombrado una nueva 
> directiva y que la juramentaci�n ser�a en noviembre (probablemente durante
> la 
> visita de Sebasti�n Bachollet). 
> 
> El tambi�n anunci� que de acuerdo a las directivas de ISOC, necesit�bamos 
> pasar por un exigente proceso de evaluaci�n para determinar si �ramos dignos
> 
> de pertenecer a ISOC Per�.
> 
> Cuando los otros miembros de ISOC Per� y yo supimos de estas intenciones, le
> 
> preguntamos cu�ndo tuvieron lugar y qui�nes eran los miembros de la nueva 
> directiva. Por supuesto, el no pod�a organizar elecciones sin, al menos, 
> informar a los otros miembros de la directiva.
> 
> Despu�s de gran presi�n Jose Francisco respondi� diciendo que suspend�a la 
> juramentaci�n de la nueva directiva. Sin embargo desde noviembre sigue sin 
> informar sobre su trabajo, ha cambiado la p�gina web de ISOC Per� quitando 
> toda informaci�n de los miembros de la directiva, y ha publicado la lista de
> 
> miembros sin incluir a aquellos que lo elegimos hace dos a�os. No conocemos
> a 
> las personas que aparecen en la p�gina web como miembros del cap�tulo,
> excepto 
> a Pedro Mantilla y Francisco Rubio.
>  
> En Per�, aceptamos gustosamente los esfuerzos de ISOC para reestablecer un 
> gobierno transparente y democr�tico de ISOC Per�.
> 
> 
> Saludos
> Luis Malpartida
> 
> 
> 
> ------ Mensaje original -------
> De : eduardo.diaz at isocpr.org
> Para : bellagamba at isoc.org, rosa at delgado.aero
> Fecha : Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:05:52 -0400
> Asunto : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Help urgent
>> Can someone tell us what�s going on in Peru? This is the first time I hear
>> that something was happening there. I will be glad to participate in any
>> group to help mediate whatever.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eduardo Diaz
>>
>> ISOC Puerto Rico
>>
>>
>>
>> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Sebastian
>> Bellagamba
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:07 AM
>> To: Rosa Delgado
>> Cc: Chapter Delegates; camilo.rueda at isoc-madrid.org;
>> fmonras at adda-multilingual.com; m.a.g.j.leenaars at isoc.nl;
>> peter.bakonyi at ihm.gov.hu; rajnesh at pataranet.com; safa at madi.ps; Archer
>> Lebron; info at isocnig.org.ng; mtodd at isoc-la.org; secretaria at isoc-es.org;
>> bureau at isoc.nl; diallo-iam at yahoo.com; Dr. Nii N. Quaynor;
>> ivs at mnl.sequel.net; sek at isoc.de; Patrick Vande Walle;
>> secretary at ireland.isoc.org.ie; anne at isoc.org; Alberto Mayorga Rios;
>> sec at kr.isoc.org; rishi at gipi.org.in; qasim at isocpk.org;
>> chair at ireland.isoc.org; abir at isocpk.org; info at isoc.org.za
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Help urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> (Spanish version below)
>>
>> Thank you, Rosa. This is a great suggestion. I will send an email to the
>> Latin America chapter delegates list looking for volunteers to this
>> mediation group. I also invite delegates from other regions to join the
>> group, I assume most of the communication will be mainly in Spanish. If you
>> wish to join, please email me to bellagamba at isoc.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gracias, Rosa. Es una excelente sugerencia. Voy a enviar un mail a la lista
>> de delegados de Am�rica Latina para pedir voluntarios para este grupo de
>> mediaci�n. Tambi�n est�n invitados a sumarse a este grupo delegados de
> otras
>> regiones, aunque asumo que las comunicaciones ser�n mayoritariamente en
>> espa�ol. Paea sumarse, por favor enviarme un email a bellagamba at isoc.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Gracias/Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sebasti�n Bellagamba
>>
>> bellagamba at isoc.org
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Manager Regional para Am�rica Latina y el Caribe
>>
>> Regional Manager for Latin America and the Caribbean
>>
>> ==================
>>
>> Internet Society
>>
>> www.isoc.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, at 4:39 AM, Rosa Delgado wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt response Alejandro.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to ask Jose Francisco to calm down. This is no good neither 
>>
>> for ISOC or Peru.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me suggsest to Sebastian Bellagamba to form a group with some Latin 
>>
>> American chapters and others may want to join, as soon as possible. This 
>>
>> group should be charged of mediating on this crucial problem. 
>>
>> Unfortunatelly, this is no new. There has been some type of disfunction 
>>
>> in the Peruvian chapter since the last two years. I have been following 
>>
>> up the case but apparentlly is getting worse. I would like to offer to 
>>
>> Sebastian, to be part of this group for my interest as peruvian and 
>>
>> long-term ISOC member.
>>
>>
>>
>> Qusiera pedirle a Jose Francisco de calmarse. Esto no es bueno ni para 
>>
>> ISOC ni para el Peru.
>>
>>
>>
>> Permitanme de sugerir a Sebastian Bellagamba de formar un grupo con 
>>
>> algunos capitulos Latinoamericanos y ootros que quiseran unirse 
>>
>> rapidamente. Este grupo debiera encargarse de mediar en este problema 
>>
>> crucial. Desafortunadamente, esto no es nuevo. Ha habido algun tipo de 
>>
>> desfuncionamiento en el capitulo peruano desde hace 2 anos. He seguido 
>>
>> estos problemas, pero parece ser que estan cada vez peor. Me gustaria 
>>
>> ofrecer a Sebatain ser parte de este grupo como peruana y miemblro de 
>>
>> ISOC de muchos anos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Rosa
>>
>>
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>
>> Dear Francisco,
>>
>>
>>
>> could you please provide more information?
>>
>>
>>
>> As Franck has said, some of us will gladly translate from Spanish to 
>>
>> English.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that I am including Sebastian Bellagamba, regional liaison 
>>
>> for Latin America and the Caribbean, as he may also be able to help 
>>
>> clarify and in turn resolve the issues to which you are attracting our 
>>
>> attention.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>>
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>
>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico
>>
>> UNAM, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
>>
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>
>> Tel. (+52-55) 5622-8541, 5622-8542 Fax 5622-8540
>>
>> http://www.dgsca.unam.mx
>>
>>
>>
>> *Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>
>> *LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>
>> *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, 
>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>
>>
>>
>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, www.isoc.org
>>
>> Participa en ICANN, www.icann.org
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Jose Francisco Callo Romero wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:42:07 +0000
>>
>> From: Jose Francisco Callo Romero <jfcallo at hotmail.com>
>>
>> To: Philippe Batreau <pbatreau at epistrophe.fr>,
>>
>> \'Chapter Delegates\' <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>
>> Cc: pk at isoc.de, sek at isoc.de, quaynor at ghana.com, 
>>
>> yagoulis at city.academic.gr,
>>
>> mok at hknet.com, peter.bakonyi at ihm.gov.hu, rishi at gipi.org.in,
>>
>> secretary at ireland.isoc.org.ie, chair at ireland.isoc.org, 
>>
>> doron at isoc.org.il,
>>
>> presidente at isoc.it, toru at riis.jp, sec at kr.isoc.org, patrick at isoc.lu,
>>
>> diallo-iam at yahoo.com, dave at isoc-mu.org, apisan at servidor.unam.mx,
>>
>> amayorga at rtn.net.mx, hilali at inpt.ac.ma, m.a.g.j.leenaars at isoc.nl,
>>
>> bureau at isoc.nl, alou at caramail.com, gmassari at danelec-ltd.com,
>>
>> info at isocnig.org.ng, rolf.nordhagen at usit.uio.no, rajnesh at pataranet.com,
>>
>> franck at sopac.org, qasim at isocpk.org, abir at isocpk.org, safa at madi.ps,
>>
>> ivs at mnl.sequel.net, saper at saper.info, alebron at softekpr.com,
>>
>> borka at e5.ijs.si, info at isoc.org.za, secretaria at isoc-es.org,
>>
>> fmonras at adda-multilingual.com, camilo.rueda at isoc-madrid.org,
>>
>> president at isoc.ch, mtodd at isoc-la.org, anne at isoc.org
>>
>> Subject: Help urgent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members of ISOC I report to the entire Commonwealth of the 
>>
>> Internet and call for solidarity and support of this Chapter Peru, 
>>
>> which wants to be \"assaulted\" by people who never did anything, and 
>>
>> that only seek their personal appetites. In a propotente mail was 
>>
>> intended to usurp and deprive it of office as President 
>>
>> organizational permission to exercise. Last year new members have 
>>
>> joined with the purpose of providing a better dynamism and grow our 
>>
>> Chapter. I appeal to the Internet community for their support and not 
>>
>> to be surprised, as well as apply for recognition of our headquarters 
>>
>> and the authentic and official Chapter of Peru, as well as the 
>>
>> following members:
>>
>>
>>
>> MIEMBROS DE ISOC � CAPITULO DE PERU
>>
>>
>>
>> Germ�n P�rez Ben�tez
>>
>>
>>
>> Wilmer Arica Morales
>>
>>
>>
>> Ruddy Medina
>>
>>
>>
>> Cesar Flores Llontop
>>
>>
>>
>> Gustavo Castro Davila
>>
>>
>>
>> Helthon Fuentes Berrocal
>>
>>
>>
>> William Rey Rodriguez
>>
>>
>>
>> Erick Iriarte Ahon
>>
>>
>>
>> Freddi Vargas Vilchez
>>
>>
>>
>> Augusto Fernandez
>>
>>
>>
>> Alfredo Arnulfo
>>
>>
>>
>> Ricardo Dioses
>>
>>
>>
>> Roberto Huby Gonzales
>>
>>
>>
>> Marco Antonio Sagastegui
>>
>>
>>
>> Jos� Alva
>>
>>
>>
>> Francisco Rubio Nieto
>>
>>
>>
>> Jos� F. Callo Romero
>>
>>
>>
>> Miembro Honorario
>>
>>
>>
>> Phillipe Boland - Colombia
>>
>>
>>
>> Sebastian Bellagamba - Argentina
>>
>>
>>
>> Sebastian Bachollet - Francia
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your valuable help and cooperation. Our freedom of 
>>
>> association are threatened by natural or bad kind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jose F. Callo Romero
>>
>> Web Project Manager
>>
>> Presidente- ISOC Peru
>>
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