[Chapter-delegates] Welcome again...

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Veni,

thanks for this contribution. Being someone whose family originated in the 
Balkans I am fully sensitive to the complexities of the issue (my 
grandfather was a prisoner of the Greek army for about 4 years in one of 
the Balkan wars, just to quote one story.)

Delving fully into the complexities of the Balkans which give rise to the 
controversies under discussion here may most probably not be within our 
purview nor competence.

But being sensitive to the complexities, which have cost countless lives 
even in recent times, has to be a "must" for participants in an 
organization like ICANN. In a large number of countries, at least in what 
we call the West, not knowing where Macedonia is means not knowing where 
and how Alexander the Great lived and operated, leads to some inability to 
grasp the relations between Europe and Asia and the West and the East 
and... well, the list extends to the last 3,000 years of human history.

I think we all deserve more. And I surmise that many of us are here 
precisely to learn and contribute in this complex international, nay, 
global society.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Veni Markovski wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:22:12 -0400
> From: Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
> To: Erkki I. Kolehmainen <eik at iki.fi>, 'Jeffrey Sherman' <Jeff at warever.com>,
>     chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Welcome again...
> 
> At 08:56 PM 21.4.2006 '?.'  +0300, Erkki I. Kolehmainen wrote:
>> Please be serious.
>
> Dear colleagues,
> Please, please. I am not sure that this discussion is for this mailing list.
>
> Here are my two cents, as someone who is quite familiar with the
> situation around the name, the chapters, the relations between Greece
> and FYROM, and between Macedonia and Bulgaria (by coincidence, today
> a number of Bulgarian ministers met with a number of their colleagues
> from Macedonia), but also about the creation of the Macedonian
> nation, language and state... as probably not that many people on
> this list. In fact me and my family are part of this history. If
> someone is more interested, drop me a personal note, as I really
> don't see a reason to discuss this on the mailing list. If I am
> mistaken, please, let me know.
>
> Nikos is quite right that the name used by the UN and EU is FYROM. At
> the same time a number of countries (among them Bulgaria, which has
> another long-lasting discussion with Macedonia about the language
> used there) have recognized Macedonia with its "constitutional name".
> Well, Bulgaria didn't recognize the Macedonian language, so some
> agreements between the two countries were discussed to be signed and
> in their text it says, "the agreements are written in the
> "constitutional languages" of the two countries" (and not "in
> Bulgarian and Macedonian")
>
> Sooner or later, Greece and FYROM will find a solution to this
> problem, and this is an issue only among themselves.I believe our
> Greek colleagues have the right to use tha name "Macedonia, the
> Former Yugoslav Republic of" (as it's at the IANA web site), or just
> FYROM, while others can use the name upon our colleagues have
> established themselves.
>
> In anycase, the Greek ISOC chapter supported the creation of their
> Northern neighbours chapter, which is the important issue.
>
> best,
> Veni
>
>
>
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