[chapter-delegates] ISOC's image cannot be damaged by discussion on intrinsic list - code of conduct needed?

[Jacek Gajewski]

Dear Veni and Vittorio,

Veni Markovski wrote:
>  Why do you think that a
> discussion within ISOC's chapters' list will damage the image of ISOC? 

I understand that the chapter-delegates list is a *closed* list, where 
chapters discuss their (sometimes very difficult and delicate) problems. 
  But this is an *intrinsic* list, so it should have no (or very little) 
impact on ISOC's *outer* image. If for any reason, this list cannot be 
used for open (sometimes passionate) discussions, then there is clearly 
a need to create another list on which those problems can be discussed 
in way characterized by mutual tolerance and understanding of our 
cultural diversity.

Recently (in Argentina):
"... Lynn noted that some of the behavior on the Chapter delegates list 
was concerning and there was some discussion over the impacts and then 
how to improve it.  The ISOC trustees have received comments that the 
behavior on list limits participation from other chapters/individuals 
who are not used to the aggressive behavior.   There were lots of heads 
nodding around the table at this, as well as comments discussing 
cultural differences and what might be appropriate or not on lists..."

This has also little to do with outer image of ISOC, although I would 
agree that we should develope some "code of conduct" for the 
chapter-delegates list. But this "code of conduct" must allow for 
expressing a justified criticism in a way which is natural for a given 
culture. I know that it is nice to exchange compliements and recognition 
for your hard work and this of course should be present on that list 
too. I know that in US people, under the danger of being sued for every 
word they say, have developed a supra-politically-correct-slang, which I 
can hardly understand. But if I feel offended by calling me  an 
"associated member" or I feel out-maneuvred by Nominating Committee, 
then where is a place where I can share my frustration with others?
And I am used to express this opinion in a language, which is natural 
for my culture. Especially in ISOC family, in a closed list of chapter 
delegates, I believe this can be understood and this tolerance for 
different ways of expression, for sometimes not good knowledge of 
English language, should be granted to every list member.

If some people limit their participation on the list, because they are 
not used to others behaviour, which they found too aggressive for their 
own culture, they should simply say so and point out to what they find 
inappripriate. I am very sure, that those who issued those statements 
will take it as natural, and will try next time to avoid certain words 
or expression, knowing that their meaning in other culture might be 
different.


With kindest regards,
Jacek Gajewski
ISOC-PL