[chapter-delegates] My Deepest Apologies, Fred and Lynn

Lynn St.Amour st.amour at isoc.org
Sat Mar 19 15:44:25 PST 2005


Ramon,

I have always interpreted your comments as 
efforts to be helpful to ISOC.   Thanks for your 
continuing support to and enthusiasm for ISOC and 
our mission.

Warm regards,
Lynn

At 9:41 AM -0400 3/18/05, Ramon Morales wrote:
>Fred & Lynn:
>I wish to apologize if you interpreted my comments as offensive to you or to
>ISOC. I am a person of passion and I may get carried away from time to time.
>I suffer from having a polemical style due to my training as a debater when
>I present arguments that could be interpreted in a manner that I did not
>intend. I love this organization and see it having an amazing future.
>
>I have walked in your shoes on a far smaller scale and I know the
>difficulties that Board Chairs and Presidents face. I can only imagine what
>you face leading a global entity such as this one. I have grown a thicker
>skin through my work on various boards and in my current position as ISOCPR
>Chairman. (I am at this juncture and have been since 2002, the point of
>attack by the leadership of the local cctld registry who still believe we
>are in the year 1989. The barbs I receive are bound to be more public as we
>continue to make an issue about our backward registry with less than 2,000
>domain names to date)
>
>I will speak to my intention and I will shift the tone and content of my
>postings. I respect your work and appreciate your decision to participate in
>our discussion group. Your leadership is helping us now in a crucial way. By
>all means, do not remove yourselves from the list. Your leadership is needed
>now more than ever.
>
>Deepest respect,
>Ramón Morales
>ISOCPR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Baker Fred [mailto:fred at cisco.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:37 PM
>To: Alan Levin
>Cc: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
>Subject: Re: [chapter-delegates] Dumb question
>
>On Mar 16, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Alan Levin wrote:
>>  Both of these items have been expressed as a need many times - over
>>  and over - can you give us a definitive answer if ISOC HQ has any
>>  intention of of pursuing either of these needs?
>
>The need has been discussed among the chapters on a number of occasions
>during which ISOC HQ had no money to do the systems. It now finally has
>some money. It has been doing software work that is probably not all
>that visible to the chapters but is intended to be helpful to them, and
>the very first person ISOC has hired in one heck of a long time is Dave
>McAuley, the guy tasked specifically with looking after our various
>membership management programs.
>
>The board has been thinking about a number of things, and has
>specifically directed staff to do certain things. You will find
>discussion of them in the board minutes and the presentations made to
>the board associated with them.
>
>I am doing some due diligence, and I would like to see this happen. It
>isn't a program that the board has approved (though I don't believe it
>is opposed), and not one the staff has committed to.
>
>Which is why I said "this is not an announcement". If I had wanted to
>make an announcement, I wouldn't have said that.
>
>I would like to believe that I can ask a question of the chapters
>without getting acid comments. Is behavior consistent with ISOC's code
>of conduct a reasonable expectation on this list? If not, I will
>happily not bother replying to it.



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