[chapter-delegates] [isoc-members-discuss] Do we have a way to help/promote this? (fwd)
Carlos Vera
cvera at interactive.net.ec
Sat Mar 19 15:55:49 PST 2005
"I do not know for certain how ISOC Ecuador operates but I would be
surprised if it did not do something similar."
ISOC Ecuador, has a voting.com resolution system. Simple enough.
No President or Board more than for international representation and
integration on international efforts (like me on this list...and I act based
on voting.com resolutions of members...) If any member feel not enough
strong to support or maintein a position (for example because he-she does
not agree with it) any member can replace them at any time.
All issues are open for any member and members can vote any time on any
issue they see relevant enough to need a voting. (they (we) decide what is
relevant based on a simple "I believe.."
No President for travel to represent ISOC Ecuador on meetings or
discussions. Any member if demonstrate to be enough prepared can represent
the decision of ISOC Ecuador's members that we decide using voting.com on
any and every issue.
It´s no time consuming, members are represented by themselves and one
speaker spread the word...
Carlos Vera Quintana
----- Original Message -----
From: "James M Galvin" <galvin at elistx.com>
To: "Carlos Vera Q" <cvera at interactive.net.ec>;
<chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [chapter-delegates] [isoc-members-discuss] Do we have a way to
help/promote this? (fwd)
> Carlos,
>
> I am generally in support of transparency, but neither ISOC nor any
> organization operates completely transparently. Nor is it reasonable to
> have every decision confirmed or validated by every member.
>
> It is common for organizations with Boards to have committees, e.g., an
> Executive Committee, that are empowered to take certain actions without
> the approval of the entire Board. Even our Chapters operate under this
> principle, empowering their President to act on behalf of the Chapter
> without consultation with all of the Chapter's members.
>
> I do not know for certain how ISOC Ecuador operates but I would be
> surprised if it did not do something similar.
>
> It is unreasonable to believe that ISOC could function effectively without
> a Board. What is important is better communication between the Board and
> ISOC Chapters and Members.
>
> Jim Galvin
> VP Chapters
>
>
>
>
> --On Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:57 AM -0500 Carlos Vera Q
> <cvera at interactive.net.ec> wrote:
>
>> Again, this can be made a general assembly decision.
>>
>> Why some few members have the decision?
>>
>> Create a forum, put there all projects in a specific format, every
>> member (EVERY) can review, comment and vote. More voted projects (one
>> member one vote) with a minimum of votes with some method that ensure a
>> democratic participation, receive funds.
>>
>> What method of voting.. there are dozen around D'hont, imperial, etc.
>> so we can ensure projects from majorities or minorities have an
>> opportunity.
>>
>> So we do not need a "room made" decision but a public made decision.
>>
>>
>> Carlos Vera
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James M Galvin" <galvin at elistx.com>
>> To: <chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:38 PM
>> Subject: [chapter-delegates] [isoc-members-discuss] Do we have a way to
>> help/promote this? (fwd)
>>
>>
>> Within a month's time we expect to invite Chapters to submit proposals
>> for projects that ISOC could fund. There is still a discussion to be
>> had
>> with Chapters regarding the procedures and process before the official
>> launching.
>>
>> However, while I can not make any guarantees, I think producing a
>> whitepaper that describes the issue discussed below, the consequences of
>> the various choices, and proposes suggestions for improvement would be a
>> welcome project.
>>
>> Note that much has already been done in this space, so you would want to
>> be careful to distinguish your project from it (and include references
>> as
>> appropriate).
>>
>> There is much more to say about project proposal submissions, but if
>> this
>> interests you please keep it in mind.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------ Forwarded Message ------------
>> Date: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:04 AM +0000
>> From: Beth Porter <beth at portermedia.co.uk>
>> To: ISOC discussion list <isoc-members-discuss at elists.isoc.org>
>> Subject: [isoc-members-discuss] Do we have a way to help/promote this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi fellow ISOC peeps
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m one of the judges for the International Webby Awards and in the 8
>> years I’ve been doing that it’s clear that the majority of corporate
>> sites are [by sublimation and/or osmosis] perpetrating bad web practice
>> which less well-heeled site developers take as the way to do it. I’m
>> hoping as the lead organization in standard-setting, we can highlight
>> elements of best practice that don’t [entirely] depend on engineering.
>>
>>
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>> This not only touches on issues of accessibility for all in terms of GUI
>> design/functionality, but as important, the recognition that end-users,
>> site visitors do not use the screen the same way they do meat-world
>> printed matter. I think there’s a lot to be discussed about this, and
>> wonder if ISOC has the mechanism and/or will to address it. I’ll
>> happily provide a ball-rolling piece or we can simply bat the thing
>> around on this list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your comments are most welcome
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Beth Porter
>>
>> Enlgish Chapter
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