[chapter-delegates] RE: Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-People :-)
Pleas McNeel
pleas at salsa.net
Sun Mar 6 18:36:10 PST 2005
Hooray.... this is the reason I joined ISOC. Maybe a different time so
Vint can attend, but if ISOC does this kind of meeting often and well,
we're on our way to a global tool that can make a difference.
/ / - - - - p l e a s
Pleas McNeel\
Founder - South Central Texas Chapter
Vinton G. Cerf wrote:
> Folks, I am tied up in an all day meeting on March 15 and cannot break
> out of it for this event.
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> Vint
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> Vinton Cerf, SVP Technology Strategy, MCI
> 22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
> Ashburn, VA 20147
> +1 703 886 1690, +1 703 886 0047 fax
> vinton.g.cerf at mci.com
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> *From:* Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2005 7:17 PM
> *To:* chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> *Cc:* 'David McAuley'; gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com; 'Carlos Vera';
> 'Irwan Effendi'; fred at cisco.com; brc at zurich.ibm.com; 'Vinton G. Cerf'
> *Subject:* Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-People :-)
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> As I proposed (minutes before the $75 storm appeared) I would like to
> TEST and strength our ability to take advantage of being a worldwide
> community.
>
> Most of the times we're arguing about the good and the bad things of
> our way to organize ourselves. We absolutely waste our energies,
> patience, working and reading hours discussing with people to whom we
> don't know their faces, neither their context or real needs.
>
>
>
> My **GOALS** are so simple:
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> 1) To Meet each other and "see" our faces (if webcam available)
>
> 2) To know better very interesting people (VIP :-) around
> the world
>
> 3) To CREATE an excuse to strength the inter-chapter
> relationship
>
> 4) To IMPROVE our relationship in an informal meeting as
> colleagues
>
> 5) To know and discover how can we share, help and learn
> to/from other brother chapters
>
>
>
> **PROPOSITION**
>
> Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
>
> Time: **9** PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) **12 **(lunch
> time in California)
>
> Tool: **Yahoo Messenger **
>
> (Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
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> (Mac) http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
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> (Unix)
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
>
>
>
> Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert"
> Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
>
> "Structure of an International Emergency Alert System"
>
> Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know
> more. It will be a good moment to learn more about it
>
> and discuss. Have a look here
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
>
>
>
> As of Today:
>
> Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington (as Host and
> presenter/moderator) **GMT-5**
>
> David McAuley ISOC-HQ **GMT-5**
>
> Carlos Vera ISOC-Ecuador** GMT-5**
>
> Andreu Veà ISOC-ES, as coordinator (now in
> California **GMT-8**)
>
> Representative ISOC-ES Spain (**GMT+1**)
>
> and with the special participation of Irwan Effendi from
> one of the affected countries **Indonesia**** **(**GMT+7**)
>
>
>
> **PRACTICAL DETAILS:**
>
> Estimated time of the software installation (3 minutes)
>
> Signing up takes a little bit more (5 min max) if you don't have a
> previous Yahoo account. If you have
>
>
>
> NOTE: I don't have yahoo stocks :-) but this piece of great software
> is free, robust, secure and have the best video codec I have ever seen.
>
> Despite of that, You can join the chat with any other
> open-source compatible chat client.
>
>
>
> If interested Feel free to contact me, before the
> 14th telling which is you Messenger ID, so I'll invite you to the
> conference room.
>
> Next regular Chats (every 15 of the month), will be easier
> to organize, I wait for "Main Topic Suggestions" of general interest.
>
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>
> andreu
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> *De:* David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
> *Enviado el:* viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 12:37
> *Para**:* andreu at veabaro.info; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> *Asunto:* RE: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC
> Real-Chapters leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
>
> Andreu, Thank you for taking this and running with it (Your
> proposition in #3 below). I like it greatly as I said to you in a
> separate note and I plan to attend on March 15^th . Since there may be
> more than 5 people can I assume we will be using the
> messenger.yahoo.com tool?
>
>
>
> Thanks and best regards
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:21 AM
> *To:* 'David McAuley'; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> *Subject:* [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC
> Real-Chapters leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
>
>
>
> I think the blog is a good idea, but as you point somebody should
> volunteer to make an "executive" diggest.
>
> In fact we don't need a blog to discuss, due our list now is public
> and web-enabled to read and track.
>
>
>
> So let's focus the problems:
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>
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> 1) We need some "diggest" about the most important topics
> discussed within our chapter-delegates list.
>
> We (in www.ISOC-ES.net <http://www.ISOC-ES.net> have a person
> who does that in Spanish every month) so all our Board is aware of
> what's going on here.
>
> Maybe someone can translate the summaries, or just do the same
> in english.
>
>
>
> 2) I think the regular "Real-Time" informal meetings between
> members around the world of this list should be Preserved and
> encouraged as a great idea.
>
> I'm leading an international research effort about Internet
> pioneers http://**W**i**W**i**W**.org <http://WiWiW.org> (**W**ho
> **i**s **W**ho in the **i**nternet** W**orld) and as we haven't been
>
> funded by any institution we're using free tools to communicate
> within the team:
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>
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> For Chatting Realtime: http://messenger.yahoo.com
> (Better video codecs than MSN, and more secure), allows many people
> same time.
>
> For IP telephony: http://www.skype.com (Up to 5
> people multi-audioconference). Great voice quality and free.
>
> File/folder sharing: http://www.grouper.com Sharing
> documents and folders via ciphered P2P mechanism.
>
>
>
> NOTE: You'll say "are not open source" OK true. But are free and
> are the best approach for an easy and convenient instant-communication
> and collaboration.
>
> I don't pretend to open a debate of which are the
> "best" tools for our regular/scheduled meetings. I just say, after
> many trials and intensive regular
>
> weekly use "we are using these ones".
>
>
>
> 3) PROPPOSITION:
>
> We have the tools, we have the people, we have the
> knowledge and we all have the same goal....then
>
> ** ****Why don't we start? **
>
> Date suggested: MARCH 15th.
>
> Time: **9** PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) **12
> **(lunch time in California)
>
> Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami
> alert" Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
>
> Many of us didn't have the time to read it.
> Or want to know more. Maybe the authors or Gene Gaines can explain us
> more.
>
> Gene, following your offer would you like to
> be the host/moderator of the First meeting ?
>
>
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> BCC: Gene, Fred and Brian
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> I'll commit to manage the logistics of getting started
> and previous tests (write me to andreu at stanford.edu
> <mailto:andreu at stanford.edu> to get my Yahoo,Skype & Grouper IDs)
>
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> andreu
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> *De:* David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
> *Enviado el:* lunes, 28 de febrero de 2005 10:35
> *Para**:* chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> *Asunto:* [chapter-delegates] Ideas Forum - Blog
>
> Dear Chapter Delegates:
>
>
>
> We have seen, over the past six months, a great increase in
> communications on our list. This is wonderful. And as I mentioned
> recently, we are considering supplementing this with real-time
> discussions. I want to thank you for the helpful comments and
> suggestions on how we might do that. However, we are upgrading our IT
> infrastructure at present and will not be able to undertake some of
> the suggestions right away.
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> In trying to decide how best to start a real-time meeting to
> supplement the list we have been considering another tool as well -
> I'm interested in your thoughts.
>
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> The list itself sees a fair number of ideas floated from time to time.
> It is difficult to determine which should be seriously considered and
> which may be better suited for a future 'wish list'. The idea of
> using a blog as a next step for ideas floated on the list has come up.
> Here is how it might work.
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>
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> As ideas are floated on the list they can be discussed but in order to
> take any such idea to the next level we need it to be filtered through
> a more formal process. Anyone involved in the discussion could
> volunteer to summarize the discussion, essentially filtering the idea
> into something we could consider acting upon. A blog could be used to
> ask questions through a template or introductory screen, the purpose
> of which is to describe the idea as concretely as possible. Of
> course, the blog would be open to chapter delegates.
>
>
>
> The questions that could be asked include: what is the purpose of this
> idea; how will it help ISOC, its chapters, or it members; describe it
> in some reasonable detail; estimate the requirements and cost of
> implementation; estimate the requirements and cost of technical
> support; who, other than staff, do you envision leading or
> participating in this effort.
>
>
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> In turn, we would use the blog as a tracking mechanism. Every idea
> submitted would be given serious consideration and we would report its
> status and priority to the blog.
>
>
>
> This is our suggestion on how to manage all the ideas and suggestions
> that are floated on this list. What are your comments or questions
> about this suggestion?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
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>
>
> David McAuley
>
> Membership Director
>
> Internet Society
>
> 703-326-9880, ext 104
>
> 703-963-5887 (mobile)
>
> mcauley at isoc.org <mailto:mcauley at isoc.org>
>
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