[chapter-delegates] RE: Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-People :-)

Sun Mar 6 17:24:25 PST 2005

Folks, I am tied up in an all day meeting on March 15 and cannot break out of it for this event.

Vint

Vinton Cerf, SVP Technology Strategy, MCI
22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
Ashburn, VA 20147
+1 703 886 1690, +1 703 886 0047 fax
vinton.g.cerf at mci.com 

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From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info] 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:17 PM
To: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Cc: 'David McAuley'; gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com; 'Carlos Vera'; 'Irwan Effendi'; fred at cisco.com; brc at zurich.ibm.com; 'Vinton G.
Cerf'
Subject: Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-People :-)

Dear all,

As I proposed (minutes before the $75 storm appeared) I would like to TEST and strength our ability to take advantage of being a
worldwide community.

Most of the times we're arguing about the good and the bad things of our way to organize ourselves. We absolutely waste our
energies, patience, working and reading hours discussing with people to whom we don't know their faces, neither their context or
real needs.

My GOALS are so simple:

          1) To Meet each other and "see" our faces (if webcam available) 

          2) To know better very interesting people (VIP :-) around the world

          3) To CREATE an excuse to strength the inter-chapter relationship

          4) To IMPROVE our relationship in an informal meeting as colleagues

          5) To know and discover how can we share, help and learn to/from other brother chapters

PROPOSITION

         Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th.  (Tuesday)

         Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain)   12 (lunch time in California)

         Tool: Yahoo Messenger    

                    (Win)   http://messenger.yahoo.com

                    (Mac)  http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF                    

                    (Unix)  http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF 

         Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert" Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter

                    "Structure of an International Emergency Alert System"

       Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know more. It will be a good moment to learn more about it

       and discuss. Have a look here http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt.> 

As of Today: 

            Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington (as Host and presenter/moderator) GMT-5

            David McAuley ISOC-HQ GMT-5

            Carlos Vera ISOC-Ecuador GMT-5

            Andreu Veà ISOC-ES, as coordinator (now in California GMT-8)

            Representative ISOC-ES Spain (GMT+1)

            and with the special participation of Irwan Effendi from one of the affected countries Indonesia (GMT+7)

PRACTICAL DETAILS:

Estimated time of the software installation (3 minutes)

Signing up takes a little bit more (5 min max) if you don't have a previous Yahoo account. If you have

NOTE: I don't have yahoo stocks :-) but this piece of great software is free, robust, secure and have the best video codec I have
ever seen.

           Despite of that, You can join the chat with any other open-source compatible chat client.

           If interested Feel free to contact me, before the 14th telling which is you Messenger ID, so I'll invite you to the
conference room. 

           Next regular Chats (every 15 of the month), will be easier to organize, I wait for "Main Topic Suggestions" of general
interest.

                                 andreu

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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org] 
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 12:37
Para: andreu at veabaro.info; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: RE: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)

Andreu, Thank you for taking this and running with it (Your proposition in #3 below). I like it greatly as I said to you in a
separate note and I plan to attend on March 15th. Since there may be more than 5 people can I assume we will be using the
messenger.yahoo.com tool?

Thanks and best regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:21 AM
To: 'David McAuley'; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Subject: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)

I think the blog is a good idea, but as you point somebody should volunteer to make an "executive" diggest.

In fact we don't need a blog to discuss, due our list now is public and web-enabled to read and track.

So let's focus the problems:

    1) We need some "diggest" about the most important topics discussed within our chapter-delegates list.

        We (in www.ISOC-ES.net have a person who does that in Spanish every month) so all our Board is aware of what's going on
here.

        Maybe someone can translate the summaries, or just do the same in english.

   2) I think the regular "Real-Time" informal meetings between members around the world of this list should be Preserved and
encouraged as a great idea.

      I'm leading an international research effort about Internet pioneers http:// <http://WiWiW.org> WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the
internet World) and as we haven't been 

      funded by any institution we're using free tools to communicate within the team:

        For Chatting Realtime:     http://messenger.yahoo.com   (Better video codecs than MSN, and more secure), allows many people
same time.

        For IP telephony:             http://www.skype.com (Up to 5 people multi-audioconference). Great voice quality and free.

        File/folder sharing:           http://www.grouper.com Sharing documents and folders via ciphered P2P mechanism.

      NOTE: You'll say "are not open source" OK true. But are free and are the best approach for an easy and convenient
instant-communication and collaboration.

                 I don't pretend to open a debate of which are the "best" tools for our regular/scheduled meetings. I just say,
after many trials and intensive regular 

                 weekly use "we are using these ones". 

    3) PROPPOSITION:

                We have the tools, we have the people, we have the knowledge and we all have the same goal....then

                Why don't we start?   

                Date suggested: MARCH 15th.  

                Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain)   12 (lunch time in California)

                Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert" Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter

                          Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know more. Maybe the authors or Gene Gaines can
explain us more.

                          Gene, following your offer would you like to be the host/moderator of the First meeting ?

        BCC: Gene, Fred and Brian                     

       ---------------------------------------------

                I'll commit to manage the logistics of getting started and previous tests (write me to andreu at stanford.edu to get my
Yahoo,Skype & Grouper IDs) 

                             andreu

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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org] 
Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2005 10:35
Para: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: [chapter-delegates] Ideas Forum - Blog

Dear Chapter Delegates:

We have seen, over the past six months, a great increase in communications on our list.  This is wonderful.  And as I mentioned
recently, we are considering supplementing this with real-time discussions.  I want to thank you for the helpful comments and
suggestions on how we might do that.  However, we are upgrading our IT infrastructure at present and will not be able to undertake
some of the suggestions right away.

In trying to decide how best to start a real-time meeting to supplement the list we have been considering another tool as well - I'm
interested in your thoughts.

The list itself sees a fair number of ideas floated from time to time. It is difficult to determine which should be seriously
considered and which may be better suited for a future 'wish list'.  The idea of using a blog as a next step for ideas floated on
the list has come up. Here is how it might work.

As ideas are floated on the list they can be discussed but in order to take any such idea to the next level we need it to be
filtered through a more formal process.  Anyone involved in the discussion could volunteer to summarize the discussion, essentially
filtering the idea into something we could consider acting upon.  A blog could be used to ask questions through a template or
introductory screen, the purpose of which is to describe the idea as concretely as possible.  Of course, the blog would be open to
chapter delegates.

The questions that could be asked include: what is the purpose of this idea; how will it help ISOC, its chapters, or it members;
describe it in some reasonable detail; estimate the requirements and cost of implementation; estimate the requirements and cost of
technical support; who, other than staff, do you envision leading or participating in this effort.

In turn, we would use the blog as a tracking mechanism.  Every idea submitted would be given serious consideration and we would
report its status and priority to the blog.

This is our suggestion on how to manage all the ideas and suggestions that are floated on this list.  What are your comments or
questions about this suggestion?

Thank you,

David McAuley

Membership Director

Internet Society

703-326-9880, ext 104

703-963-5887 (mobile)

mcauley at isoc.org

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