[chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-People :-)
Andreu Vea'
andreu at veabaro.info
Fri Mar 4 16:16:55 PST 2005
Dear all,
As I proposed (minutes before the $75 storm appeared) I would like to TEST
and strength our ability to take advantage of being a worldwide community.
Most of the times we're arguing about the good and the bad things of our way
to organize ourselves. We absolutely waste our energies, patience, working
and reading hours discussing with people to whom we don't know their faces,
neither their context or real needs.
My GOALS are so simple:
1) To Meet each other and "see" our faces (if webcam available)
2) To know better very interesting people (VIP :-) around the
world
3) To CREATE an excuse to strength the inter-chapter relationship
4) To IMPROVE our relationship in an informal meeting as
colleagues
5) To know and discover how can we share, help and learn to/from
other brother chapters
PROPOSITION
Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time in
California)
Tool: Yahoo Messenger
(Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
(Mac)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
(Unix)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert" Draft sent
by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
"Structure of an International Emergency Alert System"
Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know more. It
will be a good moment to learn more about it
and discuss. Have a look here
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt.>
As of Today:
Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington (as Host and presenter/moderator)
GMT-5
David McAuley ISOC-HQ GMT-5
Carlos Vera ISOC-Ecuador GMT-5
Andreu Veà ISOC-ES, as coordinator (now in California GMT-8)
Representative ISOC-ES Spain (GMT+1)
and with the special participation of Irwan Effendi from one of
the affected countries Indonesia (GMT+7)
PRACTICAL DETAILS:
Estimated time of the software installation (3 minutes)
Signing up takes a little bit more (5 min max) if you don't have a previous
Yahoo account. If you have
NOTE: I don't have yahoo stocks :-) but this piece of great software is
free, robust, secure and have the best video codec I have ever seen.
Despite of that, You can join the chat with any other open-source
compatible chat client.
If interested Feel free to contact me, before the 14th telling
which is you Messenger ID, so I'll invite you to the conference room.
Next regular Chats (every 15 of the month), will be easier to
organize, I wait for "Main Topic Suggestions" of general interest.
andreu
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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 12:37
Para: andreu at veabaro.info; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: RE: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters
leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
Andreu, Thank you for taking this and running with it (Your proposition in
#3 below). I like it greatly as I said to you in a separate note and I plan
to attend on March 15th. Since there may be more than 5 people can I assume
we will be using the messenger.yahoo.com tool?
Thanks and best regards
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:21 AM
To: 'David McAuley'; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Subject: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters
leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
I think the blog is a good idea, but as you point somebody should volunteer
to make an "executive" diggest.
In fact we don't need a blog to discuss, due our list now is public and
web-enabled to read and track.
So let's focus the problems:
1) We need some "diggest" about the most important topics discussed
within our chapter-delegates list.
We (in www.ISOC-ES.net have a person who does that in Spanish every
month) so all our Board is aware of what's going on here.
Maybe someone can translate the summaries, or just do the same in
english.
2) I think the regular "Real-Time" informal meetings between members
around the world of this list should be Preserved and encouraged as a great
idea.
I'm leading an international research effort about Internet pioneers
http:// <http://WiWiW.org> WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the internet World) and
as we haven't been
funded by any institution we're using free tools to communicate within
the team:
For Chatting Realtime: http://messenger.yahoo.com (Better
video codecs than MSN, and more secure), allows many people same time.
For IP telephony: http://www.skype.com (Up to 5 people
multi-audioconference). Great voice quality and free.
File/folder sharing: http://www.grouper.com Sharing
documents and folders via ciphered P2P mechanism.
NOTE: You'll say "are not open source" OK true. But are free and are
the best approach for an easy and convenient instant-communication and
collaboration.
I don't pretend to open a debate of which are the "best"
tools for our regular/scheduled meetings. I just say, after many trials and
intensive regular
weekly use "we are using these ones".
3) PROPPOSITION:
We have the tools, we have the people, we have the knowledge
and we all have the same goal....then
Why don't we start?
Date suggested: MARCH 15th.
Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time in
California)
Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert"
Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or
want to know more. Maybe the authors or Gene Gaines can explain us more.
Gene, following your offer would you like to be
the host/moderator of the First meeting ?
BCC: Gene, Fred and Brian
---------------------------------------------
I'll commit to manage the logistics of getting started and
previous tests (write me to andreu at stanford.edu to get my Yahoo,Skype &
Grouper IDs)
andreu
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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2005 10:35
Para: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: [chapter-delegates] Ideas Forum - Blog
Dear Chapter Delegates:
We have seen, over the past six months, a great increase in communications
on our list. This is wonderful. And as I mentioned recently, we are
considering supplementing this with real-time discussions. I want to thank
you for the helpful comments and suggestions on how we might do that.
However, we are upgrading our IT infrastructure at present and will not be
able to undertake some of the suggestions right away.
In trying to decide how best to start a real-time meeting to supplement the
list we have been considering another tool as well - I'm interested in your
thoughts.
The list itself sees a fair number of ideas floated from time to time. It is
difficult to determine which should be seriously considered and which may be
better suited for a future 'wish list'. The idea of using a blog as a next
step for ideas floated on the list has come up. Here is how it might work.
As ideas are floated on the list they can be discussed but in order to take
any such idea to the next level we need it to be filtered through a more
formal process. Anyone involved in the discussion could volunteer to
summarize the discussion, essentially filtering the idea into something we
could consider acting upon. A blog could be used to ask questions through a
template or introductory screen, the purpose of which is to describe the
idea as concretely as possible. Of course, the blog would be open to
chapter delegates.
The questions that could be asked include: what is the purpose of this idea;
how will it help ISOC, its chapters, or it members; describe it in some
reasonable detail; estimate the requirements and cost of implementation;
estimate the requirements and cost of technical support; who, other than
staff, do you envision leading or participating in this effort.
In turn, we would use the blog as a tracking mechanism. Every idea
submitted would be given serious consideration and we would report its
status and priority to the blog.
This is our suggestion on how to manage all the ideas and suggestions that
are floated on this list. What are your comments or questions about this
suggestion?
Thank you,
David McAuley
Membership Director
Internet Society
703-326-9880, ext 104
703-963-5887 (mobile)
mcauley at isoc.org
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