[chapter-delegates] New Membership Level
Richard StClair
stclair at niue.nu
Thu Mar 3 15:33:32 PST 2005
I think this pretty much sums up what I was thinking. ;-)
On Mar 3, 2005, at 12:09, Władek Majewski wrote:
> Jim,
>
>> I want to say clearly that the new membership level is a benefit that
>> ISOC is offering and it is completely separate from the benefits that
>> Chapters offer.
>
> No, it is NOT separate.
>
> First, you decided to disregard all chapter members and display your
> disdain to all of us by labeling us "associate".
>
> Second, you just let us know that our work and commitment to ISOC has
> a price which is estimated to be well below $75/year. All we do can
> buy us only a "associate" membership which does not make us a trusted
> enough to be entitled to vote. OTOH anyone who sends your way a mere
> $18.825 gets a right to directly nominate his representative to ISOC
> BoT immediately after he signs 251 cheques for $75 each.
>
> Third, it is all about money for ISOC staff. Every organisational
> "member" gets not only the right to vote for BoT representative (the
> more you pay, the more voting power you buy) but as a bonus there are
> a "complimentary" private memberships to give a company as way to
> influence a choice of representatives of individual members.
>
> Fourth, the first direct result of new membership level will be
> dilution of a chapter position in their country or area. Every
> prospective ISOC member will have a choice: to join chapter and pay
> chapter's membership fees, to join ISOC directly and pay your fee or
> to join both and pay two separate bills as we would be a two
> completely separate entities.
>
> > we do not expect Chapters to actively sell ISOC memberships.
>
> How can we promote chapter's membership without promotion of ISOC
> membership as well?
>
> Currently cost of our marketing efforts must be covered by harvested
> members fees. In future chapter will be responsible for all
> promotional spendings and efforts but you will collect 5 times higher
> fees.
>
> > our principal focus is growing Chapters and their membership.
>
> The whole idea is so inflamatory that it is clear that intention is to
> get rid of chapters and free members.
>
>> Certainly you should make your members aware that it is there and
>> point them to the ISOC web site for details
>
> Certainly we will make our members aware that direct ISOC membership
> is intended to limit chapter's position by "divide and rule" style of
> imperial policy.
>
>> For example, the membership system is about supporting Chapters
>
> Really? Which way it is going to be usuable for chapters?
>
>> Finally, a few people have called for ISOC to withdraw the new paying
>> membership level.
>
> Yes, it is the last moment to do it.
>
>> Chapters will suffer if members join ISOC instead of Chapters
>
> Would you dare to deny it?
>
>> growing and supporting Chapters and the Associate Members that go
>> with them is a top priority of ISOC.
>
> What will you offer us?
>
>> continue to do the job they are doing without being burdened by an
>> ISOC fee.
>
> We will be more than happy to share our revenues with ISOC headquaters
> to the same extend to which ISOC proved its readiness to share its
> revenues with us.
>
> Regards
>
> Wladyslaw Majewski
> ISOC Polska
>
>
>
>
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Regards,
Richard St Clair,
Co-Founder & Internet Evangelist,
Internet Users Society Niue
PICISOC Chairman, APTLD Board Member
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