[chapter-delegates] FYI - in the coming discussion of the WGIG questionnaire

[Franck Martin]

Oh my...

I totally forgot...

Yes, I'm a real troublemaker. ;)

When I put the question flat to the ITU rep about their need to take 
ICANN role (amongst other things), he answered me that controlling ccTLD 
is not technical but governance, and I was a little bit naive.

It was real interesting...

Did I memtion, that they were sponsoring the conference with ESCAP and 
came to the Pacific Islands to have the ESCAP ICT Asia/Pacific plan 
endorsed, while the Pacific Islands did their own plan a few years 
earlier but ITU/ESCAP had little knowledge about it?

Cheers

Rajnesh D. Singh wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fred Baker
>Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 7:19 PM
>
>On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:44 PM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
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>>>assuming that the ITU would be unable to manage a root server is
>>>ingenerous to them
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>>perhaps. But they are not asking to manage a root server. They are 
>>asking to control the contents of all of them.
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>>And look at the one they do control, the enum root. In that server, 
>>Taiwan can't get access to its own country code (886) because Red China
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>>vetoes it. Regardless of your position on the Taiwan Straits issue, it 
>>demonstrates that the ITU can't manage a server in a manner that serves
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>>all affected parties well.
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>
>This one issue highlighted above by Fred is of concern in the wider
>context
>and embodies a fundamental flaw in the proposed (if that is the correct
>word to use) changes with internet control and (for the want of a better
>word)
>governance.
>
>If "the internet is for everyone" than we cannot preclude anyone,
>whoever so they
>may be and whatever political (or non-political for that matter)
>views/stance they take.
>
>Much in the same way, I look forward to the DoC ceding whatever it has
>to cede to
>make ICANN an independent treaty organisation, and out of US
>jurisdiction and policy
>(other than whatever local laws apply in the normal sense for being
>based in the US,
>which I have no problem with. The problem is when one country/state
>starts to dictate what
>you [as an International Organisation] can or cannot do in relation to
>another country/state,
>it then defeats the purpose of being "international").
>
>Not too long ago (late last year if memory serves me right) one of my
>colleagues
>(who also lurks on this list) was in attendance at a conference where
>there was a presentation
>by ITU on this issue of "internet governance". As told to me (I was not
>in attendance), my colleague
>raised this very issue of whether ITU is really capable of handling the
>internet and the
>various technical (and socio-political) issues that go with. From what I
>understand, my
>colleague was essentially shut down and told he did not know what he was
>talking about.
>Present at the meeting were ITU/UN Reps, Government, Telecom Regulators
>and Telecom Carriers,
>with some limited NGOs. I found it interesting that my colleague was
>told he did not
>know what he was talking about - he has setup a couple of ccTLDs and
>ISPs - his views
>and comments were ignored for the rest of the conference. Quite sad.
>Maybe my colleague will
>elaborate on what transpired - I leave it to him.
>BTW - my colleague also refers to me as a "reformed telco" ie. a
>telecoms engineer now working
>in the IT world appreciative of the "issues between the 2 camps" :)
>
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>

-- 
Franck Martin
ICT Specialist
franck at sopac.org
SOPAC, Fiji
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