[chapter-delegates] Re: ISOC Annual Report 2003

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Veni,

a lot more governments are influenced locally by people related to ISOC, 
including chapter delegates. They have been very influential in the 
previous stages of WSIS and still are in the way to Tunis. 

My one proposal complementary to Franck's is precisely that: work locally 
with your community, including technical, academic, business, civil 
society, and government. What the discussion among chapters can provide is 
more-elaborate statements, collective thinking, global feedback. ISOC, in 
venues like the chapter-delegates and MemberPubPol groupings, can become 
a rapid-response think tank for all of us.

In order to achieve that, we must focus on substance. Veni, what are your 
own, original recommendations for response to the WGIG questionnaire, or 
your own, original comments on the summary that the Group's Secretariat 
has published?

Additional comment: I think that Lynn has provided more than enough 
information and background that we can concentrate on matters that are 
becoming urgent and show with deeds the relevance of this group. Some in 
this group may still consider there are substantive troubles internally 
that merit discussion, others may have personal accounts to settle, and a 
couple are running in an election. Can we put those considerations aside, 
or declare a moratorium till, say, June 22, so that the WGIG participants 
can benefit from the collective knowledge here, and so, too, can ISOC 
leadership?

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Veni Markovski wrote:

> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:05:17 -0400
> From: Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
> To: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>,
>      Franck Martin <franck at sopac.org>
> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [chapter-delegates] Re: ISOC Annual Report 2003
> 
> Alejandro,
> while I agree with most of your words, I need to make some clarification:
> 
> At 20:36 04-06-05  -0500, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> >Franck, Gene, and all,
> >
> >though indeed ISOC's voice does not resonate loudly through the world, key
> >players in WGIG/WSIS do listen to it.
> 
> As we all know, the key players are actually the governments. So far only 
> two governments have shown publicly respect towards ISOC - the US and 
> Bulgaria, through me speaking in February in Geneva, during the plenary of 
> the PrepCom - I guess you must have been there, and have pointed this out.
> 
> >That we do want to see more of that is the reason of my sending the WGIG
> >interim report to this list. Can we have a discussion about its substance,
> >environment, alternate proposals, alternate reasoning?
> 
> Dear colleagues, the reports are published at www.wgig.org - because Franck 
> asked, that's the place to look for it.
> 
> >Unfortunately at that time the chapters list was focussed on other
> >subjects.
> 
> Alejandro, I have to disagree with you, because some of the chapters were 
> and are quite active on the WSIS:
> ISOC-France will have the EGENI conference in July.
> ISOC-Geneva and ISOC-Bulgaria are actively involved in all PrepComs,
> several of the African chapters also manage to send representatives to the 
> regional meetings.
> ISOC-Egypt was also active in the organization of the Arab WSIS meeting 
> last month in Cairo.
> Vittorio also puts from time to time his ISOC-Italy hat.
> Many chapters are members of the At-Large.
> 
> I guess that we just need to add that the chapters as a group were left 
> aside of the work of ISOC and were not consulted by ISOC, and it seems the 
> HQ started to think about them again only because of the problems during 
> the WSIS/WGIG.
> All chapters together form a sensitive organism, and they can sense when 
> they are being used, while at the same time blamed by some of our esteemed 
> colleagues as "noisy" and "self-serving".
> 
> >Can we synchronize to the urgent, clear and present matter at hand?
> 
> As I said above, the fact that you don't see discussions on this list is 
> normal, and it does not mean there's no involvement of chapters in the work 
> of the WSIS/WGIG.
> 
> best,
> veni 
> 
>