[chapter-delegates] [Fwd: [IGOVAP] A plan to hostile take over .ID domain management]

[Franck Martin]

Anybody from Indonesia, that wish to comment?

Cheers

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Subject: 	[IGOVAP] A plan to hostile take over .ID domain management
Date: 	Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:11:09 +0700
From: 	Budi Rahardjo <rahard at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	Budi Rahardjo <rahard at gmail.com>
To: 	igovap at lists.apdip.net



Just FYI.
It's a sad day for me :(

-- budi



Domain Management Issues in Indonesia.
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Dear ccTLDs, IANA, and ICANN,
I would like report the .ID domain management issues.
Originally, I was hoping that these issues could be resolved 
elegantly, locally. But, I think that these issues will continue.
So, please bear with this long explanation.

Short summary
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APJII (the association of ISP in Indonesia) is trying to takeover
the .ID domain management in Indonesia. They have tried and will try
everything to take over.

Long description
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I've been managing the .ID domain since the end of 1997.
At that time, nobody wanted to run the domain management.

First of all, a brief description of how we run things.
To run the .ID domain, I am assisted by several domain admins.
Each of these domain admins is responsible for second level
domains. For example, there is a domain admin for AC.ID,
then there is also a different domain admin for CO.ID, etc.
These domain admins are volunteered based.
(None get paid, except for the CO.ID admin who is also helping
the day to day operation.)
All of this was done informally. I am personally responsible
for everything. We use "IDNIC" as the name of our operation.

There is a fee to register a domain, except for sch.id, go.id,
and mil.id (which is allocated for schools, government, and military
- they are free).
Most of the domains are registered with one time fee, except
for web.id which has a yearly fee. In the future we would like
to implement a yearly fee to make sure that there are no dead
domains (domains that are not used at all).
Billing was outsourced to APJII (the association of Indonesian ISP).

To serve the domain users better, we are now in the process
of using registrar-registry, just like gTLDs. 
We would like to be the registry and stick with
policy and backend. Whereas registrars are doing the business.

To implement this concept we have to formalized the organization.
We decided to create a formal entity, which consists of all
the domain admins (the de facto operational). This organization
is a non-profit oriented. We are in the process of discussing the
by-laws publicly (through open mailing list).

Now... the issues.
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APJII (the associations of ISP) feels that they are being left out.
They insisted that they should be part of the registry (AND
registrar). They do not like the registrar-registry concept. 
So, they sent mails.

1. First mail stated that we cannot use the word / brand "IDNIC"
   anymore since they have trademarked the name IDNIC. (in 1998)
   (Yes, they have done this without my knowledge.
   It is a stab in my back.)
2. They will use the name IDNIC to serve IP allocation and
   AS numbers, which they are doing right now.
   (Note: apparently, this is )

We have no choice but to stop using the name IDNIC in our services.
We are now using "ccTLD-ID" as our name.
(And we have changed IANA database.)
We move forward with our registrar-registry programme.
Currently, we have selected 5 registrars.

The next letter was a threat to sue me.

A couple of months ago, APJII have an election and new officials 
were announced. As part of the election process, they also have programme.
To my disbelieve, one of the programme was to create an entity
called IDNIC that manages IP numbers *AND* domain name.
I have no doubt that they will send a letter to ICANN to redelegate
that mandate to them.
Since this is their internal organization issue, I could not 
(and would not) do anything. But I have to give you a warning.

A few days ago, they went to the Government and asked the Gov
to support APJII (or they use the name ID-NIC) as the domain
management in Indonesia.
Now, I am pretty sure APJII will send an email to IANA/ICANN as well,
asking for a redelegation to them.


Just to give everybody a head start.


Regards
-- Budi Rahardjo
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Franck Martin
ICT Specialist
franck at sopac.org
SOPAC, Fiji
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