[ih] Failures of the early Internet

vinton cerf vgcerf at gmail.com
Mon Jan 22 13:50:27 PST 2024


Great examples Len!

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024, 16:26 Leonard Kleinrock via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

>
> I have some data that can add to the discussion regarding early ARPANET
> lockups, etc. A number of them are detailed and documented in Chapter 6 of
> my Queueing Systems, Volume 2: Computer Applications (1975).  Among those
> included are:
>
> -Reassembly lockup
> -Direct store-and-forward lockup
> -Indirect store-and-forward lockup
> -Christmas lockup
> -Piggyback lockup
> and discussions of the early ARPANET flow control protocols.
>
> Assuming that this readership finds this of interest, I have scanned and
> attached a link for  two sections of my book (Section 6.3. FLOW CONTROL and
> Section 6.4. LOCKUPS, DEGRADATIONS AND TRAPS) in which these matters are
> detailed.  The link is
> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0ca-SfiMKqzY4N-egPfYRTloA#Deadlocks_etc_pp_438-451_Volume_2
>
> Len Kleinrock
> UCLA Computer Science Department
>
> <Deadlocks etc pp 438-451 Volume 2.pdf>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2024, at 6:20 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/19/24 16:00, Karl Auerbach via Internet-history wrote:
> >> (I've never felt that I have an adequate understanding of the early
> routing failures and their effects.)
> >
> > OK, I'll jump in.....
> >
> > It was painfully easy for routing problems to occur.   All one had to do
> was advertise to a neighboring router that you were the best route to
> everywhere.   A simple bug could do the job.  Word would quickly spread,
> and all traffic would head your way, which sometimes made it impossible to
> connect to the offending router to try to fix the problem.  IIRC, something
> like that was what the Fuzzballs occasionally did.
> >
> > Another incident I recall was also a routing issue.  I don't remember
> exactly where it happened, but two sites, universities IIRC, were
> collaborating on some research project and had a need to send data back and
> forth.  Their pathway to each other through the Internet was somewhat long
> and often congested.   So they decided to fix the problem by installing a
> circuit directly between their two campus' routers.
> >
> > Money was of course an issue, but they found the funds to pay for a 9.6
> kb/s line.  They were surprised to observe that the added line only made
> things worse.  File transfers took even longer than before.  Of course
> their change to the topology of the Internet had unexpectedly made their
> 9.6 line the best route for all sorts of Internet traffic unrelated to
> their project.
> >
> > Many of the incidents I remember were caused by the routing algorithms
> which were based on "hops" rather than on time (as had been the case in the
> Arpanet for a decade or more).   This was a well-known problem which I
> think was part of the motivation for Dave Mills to create the NTP
> machinery.  In addition to routing, there were other Internet mechanisms
> that depended on time, but had necessarily been implemented "temporarily"
> until good time mechanisms were available.  For example, the TTL (Time To
> Live) and TOS (Type Of Service) values in IP were supposed to provide the
> routers with information to route IP datagrams over the most appropriate
> route, or quickly discard them if there was no expectation they could
> possibly get to their destination in time to still be useful.
> >
> > Dave worked hard to get Time as an inherent element of The Internet, and
> our expectation was that TCP and IP software throughout the Internet would
> be changed to make decisions based on Time rather than Hops.   I'm not sure
> if that ever happened.   The Internet now knows what time it is, but does
> networking software today ever look at its watch?
> >
> > Another incident I recall was not an Internet failure, but rather a
> situation where the Internet terrorized the Arpanet.
> >
> > The Arpanet was touted as a "packet network", but in reality it was a
> virtual circuit network, using packets internally.   There were lots of
> mechanisms inside the Arpanet IMPs to make all user traffic travel to its
> destination intact and in the same order it was sent.   The network was
> designed to match the typical usage patterns of the era - people connected
> to some computer somewhere on the Arpanet, did their work, and disconnected
> minutes or even hours later.   Inside the Arpanet, the mechanisms to set up
> virtual circuits consumed resources and took time, but with sessions
> lasting minutes or hours the impact was tolerable.
> >
> > One day the Arpanet was having problems and response times were
> noticeably slower than usual.  Investigation revealed that the Arpanet was
> flailing, constantly setting up and tearing down virtual circuits, each of
> which was only lasting for a second or two.   The Arpanet NOC (down the
> hall from my office) was in crisis.
> >
> > Eventually the problem was traced down to a new release of OS software
> (BSD, IIRC) that had just been posted on the Arpanet, and was being
> installed in the large numbers of workstations (Sun, IIRC) that had started
> appearing on the Internet.  The new OS release included a new tool to
> advise its users of the current status of the Internet.  It accomplished
> that by "pinging" every router every few minutes to see if that router was
> up and responsive.
> >
> > Pinging involved sending a single datagram, and receiving a single
> datgram in response.  But each such datagram required the Arpanet to set up
> a virtual circuit to carry that traffic.  With lots of OSes and lots of
> routers now scattered around the Arpanet, it was trying to do something it
> was never designed to do.   As more workstations loaded the new OS release,
> the problem only got worse.
> >
> > Although this wasn't an "Internet failure", it was a system failure,
> caused by the Internet.  Administrative action suppressed the problem and
> as the Arpanet was decommissioned the problem disappeared.  Or perhaps
> moved somewhere else?
> >
> > Anybody else have recollections of early failures...?
> >
> > Jack Haverty
> >
> >
> >
> >
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