[ih] Really old list archives Was: google groups going away feb 22

Craig Partridge craig at tereschau.net
Sat Jan 20 11:17:03 PST 2024


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> There is a file in the ietf-ftp directory called 1990-all that contains
> ietf list messages from 1990. [3] Offhand, I don’t know of any earlier
> complete ietf list.  I hope such a list can be retrieved, because there are
> some things I would like to reread, such as the discussions that took place
> during the mid-1980s about Internet congestion that eventually led to Van
> Jacobson’s TCP modifications, RFCs, etc.
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Most of Van's long thoughful notes went to the End2End mailing list (though
some went to the TCP-IP mailing list).  I'm not close to the right computer
today, but I believe I archived the key ones.  As I recall, I created a
"best of Van" archive for Rich Stevens when he was writing "TCP-IP
Illustrated '' because in some of those notes Van sought to give readers an
intuition about the dynamics he was seeing and Rich was trying to do
something similar in his book.  And some of Van's preliminary (aka in
progress) reports on TCP improvements can be found in the meeting reports
from early IETF meetings (on the IETF site).

Thanks!

Craig



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