[ih] Email reliability

[Jack Haverty]

It will likely reduce spam, but also disrupt real email - in particular 
any email that travels using any mailing list (like this one).   The 
effect comes not from the new rules for "bulk senders", but rather from 
the mail servers changes to their filters for handling incoming mail, 
especially the rules that classify mail travelling through mailing lists 
as inherently suspicious.

 From Amazon's blog announcement:

"For example, /gmail.com/ will be publishing a quarantine DMARC policy, 
which means that unauthorized messages claiming to be from Gmail will be 
sent to Junk folders."  It's likely that yahoo and others are taking 
similar steps, effective sometime in the next month or so.  Depending on 
exactly how they set it up, the effect might be that all email from any 
mailing list will be automatically classed as spam, or even just 
silently deleted.

I suspect lots of "mailing lists" will sustain such "collateral 
damage".   Anyone who sends or receives their email using a gmail or 
yahoo address will likely discover that they are effectively cut off 
from using this list (and probably others).

I'm on several mailing lists (isoc, groups.io, googlegroups, ...) and 
haven't seen announcements from any of them about imminent changes.  Nor 
have the "email providers" (yahoo, gmail, etc.) said anything about 
their plans' effects on mailing lists or groups. Perhaps they're just 
not aware of what's happening?...

Jack Haverty



On 1/14/24 02:56, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Internet-history wrote:
>
>
> On 11/01/2024 20:10, Dave Crocker via Internet-history wrote:
>> Large email service providers have been on a long march towards 
>> increasingly restrictive rules, for the mail they will accept. The 
>> onslaught of email abuse obviously creates a clear and present 
>> danger.  The challenge in formulating acceptance changes is the 
>> potential for collateral damage to legitimate users. 
>
> This week, AWS customers received an email detailing changes with 
> Google + Yahoo and others.
> See forwarded in full. As an evolution of email, is this likely to 
> make it more reliable again or will it lead to further deterioration 
> of the service?
> Best,
>
> Olivier
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:     [Action may be required] Mailbox providers announce new 
> requirements for bulk email senders [AWS Account: xxx ]
> Date:     Sun, 14 Jan 2024 10:26:30 +0000
> From:     Amazon Web Services, Inc. <no-reply-aws at amazon.com>
> To:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> In a move to safeguard user inboxes, Gmail [1] and Yahoo Mail [2] 
> announced a new set of requirements for senders. Effective February 
> 2024, the new requirements affect email senders who distribute over 
> 5,000 bulk messages per day or have >0.3% of messages reported as 
> spam. Failure to comply with the new requirements may result in Gmail 
> and Yahoo rejecting message delivery to their customers.
>
> For more information on the new mailbox provider requirements and how 
> to comply, please visit the AWS blog [3]. If you have any questions or 
> concerns, please reach out to AWS Support [4].
>
> [1] 
> https://blog.google/products/gmail/gmail-security-authentication-spam-protection/
> [2] 
> https://blog.postmaster.yahooinc.com/post/730172167494483968/more-secure-less-spam
> [3] 
> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/messaging-and-targeting/an-overview-of-bulk-sender-changes-at-yahoo-gmail/
> [4] https://aws.amazon.com/support
>
> Sincerely,
> Amazon Web Services
>
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