[ih] Running long-term archives of this list?

Jack Haverty jack at 3kitty.org
Mon Feb 13 14:07:58 PST 2023


Yesterday I read a story about Google's small army of employees with 
yellow badges tasked with methodically scanning books in various 
libraries' collections to create a comprehensive digital archive, which 
unfortunately couldn't be available to the public for various reasons 
such as legal constaints of copyright et al.   I assume it's all well 
archived and backed up.

Perhaps we just need to publish the archives as a book.    I suggest 
"Hairy Totter and the Denizens of The Internet".

Jack


On 2/13/23 13:52, vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:
> Carnegie-Mellon has an archive - check with Raj Reddy?
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> v
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> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:03 PM touch--- via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>> Hi, all,
>>
>> I’ve looked into this before. The obvious choice would be the Computer
>> History Museum, but they didn’t know what I was asking for the last time I
>> tried them.
>>
>> Very few places actually run true museum-quality backups or storage of
>> ANYTHING (libraries are the exception). Even university archives don’t -
>> they don’t separate acid-free from not, etc. And nobody moves data from
>> medium to medium as it evolves, i.e., so we can read things in the future
>> without needing a non-existent 9-track tape drive.
>>
>> If anyone finds a solution that’d work for free, please do keep me posted.
>> Until then, I figure we rely on the kindness of places like the Wayback
>> Machine.
>>
>> Joe (list admin)
>>
>>>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
>> www.strayalpha.com
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:27 AM, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <
>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>> Reflecting, once again, on the  considerable depth and breadth of
>> historical technical knowledge that is regularly demonstrated on this list,
>> I'm wondering about how robustly is is archives and how easily the various
>> archives can be accessed.
>>> Yes it's hosted by isoc, but I'm asking about long-term (museum-quality)
>> data archival.  (We tend to think of back and archive as the same, but they
>> aren't.)
>>> Also note I cited 'running' which means that even this message should
>> hit those long-term archives pretty quickly.
>>> d/
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