[ih] FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really Invented the Internet?"
John Day
jeanjour at comcast.net
Mon Jul 23 14:57:34 PDT 2012
I can't be sure, Dave Walden can probably fill it in, but I think
connecting the ARPANet to Norway and the UK networks might have
happened earlier. But then, that was probably still the same network.
At 7:30 +1000 2012/07/24, Ian Peter wrote:
>Here we go again - the search for the single point of origin of the
>Internet.
>
>The writer of the LA Times article might have done well if he had checked
>with his friend Bob Taylor. He writes.
>
>"Bob Taylor is a friend of mine, and I think I can say without fear of
>contradiction that he fully endorses the idea as a point of personal pride
>that the government-funded ARPANet was very much the precursor of the
>Internet as we know it today"
>
>Well that's not what Bob Taylor has written elsewhere. To quote Bob,
>
>"I believe the first internet was created at Xerox PARC, circa '75, when we
>connected, via PUP, the Ethernet with the ARPAnet. PUP (PARC Universal
>Protocol) was instrumental later in defining TCP."
>
>So John Schoch and PUP has to become at least part of this history - as has
>Louis Pouzin and datagrams at Cyclades, and a number of other early
>projects.
>
>Claiming a single point of origin only lessens the richeness of the
>Internet. Many people were involved, many projects. None can claim sole
>inventor rights - indeed, the Myth of the Sole Inventor is an unproductive
>way to view our history. Mark Lumley has covered this well with "The Myth
>of the Sole Inventor"
>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1856610 .
>
>Ian Peter
>
>
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>> 1. Re: FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really Invented the
>> Internet?" (Andrew G. Malis)
>> 2. Re: FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really Invented the
>> Internet?" (John Curran)
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>> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:02:44 -0400
>> From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ih] FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really Invented the
>> Internet?"
>> To: John Curran <jcurran at istaff.org>
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>> The LA Times fires back at Crovitz and the WSJ. This was written by Michael
>> Hiltzik, who was quoted by Crovitz:
>>
>>
>>http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-mo-who-invented-internet-20120723,0,5
>> 052169.story
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:25 PM, John Curran <jcurran at istaff.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Internet History Folks -
>>>
>>> I make note of this, as some of the folks on this list might have
>>> differing views.
>>>
>>> FYI,
>>> /John
>>>
>>> ===
>>> <
>>>
>>>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444464304577539063008406518.htm
>>> l#
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet? Contrary to legend, it
>>> wasn't the federal government, and the Internet had nothing to do with
>>> maintaining communications during a war.
>>>
>>> - By L. GORDON CROVITZ
>>>
>>> [image: Columnist's name]
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> A telling moment in the presidential race came recently when Barack
>>> Obama said: "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else
> >> made that happen." He justified elevating bureaucrats over
>entrepreneurs by
>>> referring to bridges and roads, adding: "The Internet didn't get invented
>>> on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all companies
>>> could make money off the Internet."
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> To be clear, I was not referring to the political aspects of the article,
>> but the references along the lines of:
>>
>> "So having created the Internet, why didn't Xerox become the
>>biggest company
>> in the world? "
>>
>> FYI,
>> /John
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:25 PM, John Curran wrote:
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>>> Internet History Folks -
>>>
>>> I make note of this, as some of the folks on this list might have
>>> differing views.
>>>
>>> FYI,
>>> /John
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>><http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444464304577539063008406518.ht
>>> ml#>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
>>> Contrary to legend, it wasn't the federal government, and the Internet had
>>> nothing to do with maintaining communications during a war.
>>> By L. GORDON CROVITZ
>>>
>>> A telling moment in the presidential race came recently when Barack Obama
>>> said: "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made
>>> that happen." He justified elevating bureaucrats over entrepreneurs by
>>> referring to bridges and roads, adding: "The Internet didn't get
>>>invented on
>>> its own. Government research created the Internet so that all
>>>companies could
>>> make money off the Internet."
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
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