From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 17:00:55 2025
From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:00:55 +1200
Subject: [ih] Fwd: Fred Baker :-(
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In case people here have not heard the very sad news:

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Subject: Re: Fred Baker :-(
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:57:36 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com>
To: IETF-Discussion list <ietf at ietf.org>
CC: Benoit <benoit at claise.be>

I am deeply saddened.  I suppose I first met Fred in 1992, and while he was IETF Chair and I was IAB Chair we worked together constantly. I especially remember when we went together to the Old Executive Office building in Washington D.C. to speak with Ira Magaziner as he planned the Clinton/Gore Administration's Internet policy. Fred was dressed in IETF style and I had a suit and tie, but I think Fred made a much greater impression. I was also fortunate to work with Fred on numerous technical issues over the years. He was a good colleague, very polite but firm when necessary, and with no disrespect to anyone else, he was undoubtedly the best Chair the IETF has ever had.

I believe it was Fred who first observed that "The Internet runs on Proposed Standards." RFC 1812 stands as proof of that.

Regards
     Brian Carpenter

On 20-Jun-25 00:49, Benoit wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I just hear the sad news today
> 
> 
> 
> Fred, in his multiple roles at the IETF (including IETF chair) and as Cisco Fellow, was a role model for me and a personal mentor.? His Internet contributions are obviously numerous.
> For sure, he will be greatly missed.
> 
> 
> Regards, Benoit

From touch at strayalpha.com  Fri Jun 20 09:44:20 2025
From: touch at strayalpha.com (Joe Touch)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:44:20 -0700
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Hi all,

This post is off topic.  Please use other lists for contemporary issues.

Joe / list admin

> On Jun 20, 2025, at 9:27?AM, Frantisek Borsik via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote: